[Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card

[Jim Barbour via Nfbc-info]

Hey Lisa,

I very much respect that you and I are dialoging in front of a lot of
federationists, trying to find a path forward that works for all
sides.  Thank you for starting it, and for allowing me stand up with
you.

I'm afraid I don't think using a different colored card will meet SANDAG's
requirements.  Many disabilities, as well as being low income, are not
visible.  In other words, a bus or train operator would be able to
tell that the card is a subsidized card by its color, they wouldn't be
able to tell if you are entitled to carry a subsidized card just by
looking at you. 

It seems reasonable to me that you'd have to prove the card is yours
with a photo.

I do think it is ridiculous that they will charge low income riders an
extra $7 to be able to use the bus.  I also think it's ridiculous that
the burden to replace the card is higher for low income riders.  These
problems should definitely be worked out.  I just don't see how a
colored card solves the problem.

What do you think?

Jim

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:54:35PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> 
> One of the many reasons I belong to this organization is because people like
> you and Tim offer another point ofview. I wholeheartedly agree with your
> point of view. I also think there is some degree of truth about my
> perceptions. It seems to me the meeting of the minds is to implement a
> different colored card that distinguishes it as a subsidized card. San
> Diegans who meet the qualifying criteria for subsidized bus passes are
> charged a seven-dollar fee to have their photo taken. Finally, It makes more
> sense to mandate that every COMPASS Card holder is required to have a
> photograph on their card. Also, it's another way for MTS and SANDAG to
> generate revanew if everyone pays for a photo on their bus pass. What do you
> think, Jim? Thanks for helping me to be a better person. 
> 
> Lisa 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Barbour via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:35 PM
> To: Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:20:24PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
> > Here's the unspoken message coming from SANDAG and MTS. Low income 
> > People are not to be trusted as much as non-low income bus riders.
> 
> Hey Lisa,
> 
> Isn't more likely that the message is "if the compass card is subsidized,
> we're going to ask for additional proof that it's yours?"
> 
> If you buy a full fare card and loan it to someone else, they don't care.
> If you buy a subsidized card and loan it to someone else, they very much
> care.
> 
> Very curious to know how you see this.
> 
> Jim
>