[Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card

[Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info]

Oops. I didn't check to see the E-mail address. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Barbour via Nfbc-info
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:15 PM
To: Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card

Hey Lisa,

I very much respect that you and I are dialoging in front of a lot of
federationists, trying to find a path forward that works for all sides.
Thank you for starting it, and for allowing me stand up with you.

I'm afraid I don't think using a different colored card will meet SANDAG's
requirements.  Many disabilities, as well as being low income, are not
visible.  In other words, a bus or train operator would be able to tell that
the card is a subsidized card by its color, they wouldn't be able to tell if
you are entitled to carry a subsidized card just by looking at you. 

It seems reasonable to me that you'd have to prove the card is yours with a
photo.

I do think it is ridiculous that they will charge low income riders an extra
$7 to be able to use the bus.  I also think it's ridiculous that the burden
to replace the card is higher for low income riders.  These problems should
definitely be worked out.  I just don't see how a colored card solves the
problem.

What do you think?

Jim

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:54:35PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> 
> One of the many reasons I belong to this organization is because 
> people like you and Tim offer another point ofview. I wholeheartedly 
> agree with your point of view. I also think there is some degree of 
> truth about my perceptions. It seems to me the meeting of the minds is 
> to implement a different colored card that distinguishes it as a 
> subsidized card. San Diegans who meet the qualifying criteria for 
> subsidized bus passes are charged a seven-dollar fee to have their 
> photo taken. Finally, It makes more sense to mandate that every 
> COMPASS Card holder is required to have a photograph on their card. 
> Also, it's another way for MTS and SANDAG to generate revanew if 
> everyone pays for a photo on their bus pass. What do you think, Jim?
Thanks for helping me to be a better person.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Barbour via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:35 PM
> To: Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:20:24PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
> > Here's the unspoken message coming from SANDAG and MTS. Low income 
> > People are not to be trusted as much as non-low income bus riders.
> 
> Hey Lisa,
> 
> Isn't more likely that the message is "if the compass card is 
> subsidized, we're going to ask for additional proof that it's yours?"
> 
> If you buy a full fare card and loan it to someone else, they don't care.
> If you buy a subsidized card and loan it to someone else, they very 
> much care.
> 
> Very curious to know how you see this.
> 
> Jim
> 

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