[Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card

[Joy Stigile via Nfbc-info]

Hi Lisa,

I think this is an appropriate topic for our list serve.  So, keep your 
thoughts coming.

Warmly, Joy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card


> Oops. I didn't check to see the E-mail address.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Barbour via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:15 PM
> To: Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card
>
> Hey Lisa,
>
> I very much respect that you and I are dialoging in front of a lot of
> federationists, trying to find a path forward that works for all sides.
> Thank you for starting it, and for allowing me stand up with you.
>
> I'm afraid I don't think using a different colored card will meet SANDAG's
> requirements.  Many disabilities, as well as being low income, are not
> visible.  In other words, a bus or train operator would be able to tell 
> that
> the card is a subsidized card by its color, they wouldn't be able to tell 
> if
> you are entitled to carry a subsidized card just by looking at you.
>
> It seems reasonable to me that you'd have to prove the card is yours with 
> a
> photo.
>
> I do think it is ridiculous that they will charge low income riders an 
> extra
> $7 to be able to use the bus.  I also think it's ridiculous that the 
> burden
> to replace the card is higher for low income riders.  These problems 
> should
> definitely be worked out.  I just don't see how a colored card solves the
> problem.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:54:35PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>>
>> One of the many reasons I belong to this organization is because
>> people like you and Tim offer another point ofview. I wholeheartedly
>> agree with your point of view. I also think there is some degree of
>> truth about my perceptions. It seems to me the meeting of the minds is
>> to implement a different colored card that distinguishes it as a
>> subsidized card. San Diegans who meet the qualifying criteria for
>> subsidized bus passes are charged a seven-dollar fee to have their
>> photo taken. Finally, It makes more sense to mandate that every
>> COMPASS Card holder is required to have a photograph on their card.
>> Also, it's another way for MTS and SANDAG to generate revanew if
>> everyone pays for a photo on their bus pass. What do you think, Jim?
> Thanks for helping me to be a better person.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Barbour via Nfbc-info
>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:35 PM
>> To: Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Pictures on compass card
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 04:20:24PM -0700, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info 
>> wrote:
>> > Here's the unspoken message coming from SANDAG and MTS. Low income
>> > People are not to be trusted as much as non-low income bus riders.
>>
>> Hey Lisa,
>>
>> Isn't more likely that the message is "if the compass card is
>> subsidized, we're going to ask for additional proof that it's yours?"
>>
>> If you buy a full fare card and loan it to someone else, they don't care.
>> If you buy a subsidized card and loan it to someone else, they very
>> much care.
>>
>> Very curious to know how you see this.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
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