[Nfbc-info] Blindness does or does not hold me back

Michael Hingson mike at michaelhingson.com
Sat Oct 14 21:49:40 UTC 2017


Hi,

I would like to chime in here. First, I am changing the subject line.

Second, Tomorrow we celebrate National White Cane day. Generally, the white cane has become the symbol we use to celebrate our independence and our acceptance that blindness is only a nuisance and characteristic, but not an obstacle in of itself. In reality, both the white cane and guide dog represent the same things. They give us a vehicle to help us travel and function independently in the world.

Sighted people have their own mechanisms to "help them" although they do not acknowledge them as devices of reasonable accommodation and help. Just challenge a sighted person to travel around a building at night with no available light and see how well they do. The electric light invented by Thomas Edison and others is nothing but a reasonable accommodation for light dependent people.

We have learned to travel proudly with our canes and guide dogs. We have also been able to take advantage of other technologies such as Aira, www.aira.io, to give us much more information than we ever had access to before. However, make no mistake about it, the independence does not come from canes, dogs, or technology. It comes from within ourselves. We have to first believe in our own abilities and that simply because we are blind we have not lost any ability nor opportunity to live.

blindness is not what holds me back. Yes, I am Mike Hingson and I happen to be blind. I cannot help that people call me "blind". Society has not yet learned that we, like others, do not like to be pigeon-holed into a specific category. African Americans were called "colored", "persons of color" and even "black" for years. Other races have experienced their own terminology which has been viewed, or today is viewed, as derogatory. I do not believe "blind" is derogatory, but most people implicitly or explicitly do so believe.

However, blindness can hold us back if we allow it to do so. We each need to learn how to live, function and move forward in our world. I do not accept that we who happen to be blind live in a "sighted world". Yes, most people are sighted just as most people happen to have one skin color, or more are female than are male. We all live in the same world. That world should be inclusive and it is up to all of us to help make it so.

Blindness is not the problem. Instead, society's attitudes toward us, and often our own attitudes toward ourselves, are the problem. Our white canes, guide dogs and technology including Aira offer us opportunities to express our independence and determination to live in the world. It is up to us to use the opportunities we have to take advantage of the same things afforded to everyone.

No, blindness will not hold me back unless I permit it to do so. I will celebrate White cane day by traveling by car and air to Fort Dodge Iowa to talk about blindness and work to show the world that I am as "normal" and anyone and that I demand the right to partake of whatever society has to offer.

In ending this let me present to you some of the words of the founder of the National Federation of the Blind, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek who, during the 1967 convention of the Federation in Los Angeles delivered a speech entitled “Are We Equal to the Challenge?". Incidentally, you may read the entire speech at https://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/convent/banque67.html

Dr. tenBroek said in part, "The blind have a right to live in the world. That right is as deep as human nature; as pervasive as the need for social existence; as ubiquitous as the human race; as invincible as the human spirit. As their souls are their own, so their destiny must be their own. Their salvation or failure lies within their own choice and responsibility. That choice cannot be precluded or prejudged; those lives cannot be predetermined or controlled." As usual, Dr. tenBroek says it best. So, celebrate canes and dogs tomorrow. Go forth and live the life you want. You can do it. 

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From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Martinez via NFBC-Info
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for me, it isn’t what holds me back. I’m Veronica, not the blind person…  blindness is not an issue for me, I am a human being, I don’t want to be known as the blind woman. To my son, I am his mother. He doesn’t see me and say oh, my mom is blind. It doesn’t matter to him, and that is how it has always been for me. Even growing up, my sisters and my family never refer to me as the blind girl, woman etc. If you make Blindness a big deal, then it is going to be. Just my opinion. And by the way, I thought there was already a Metrolink in Paris California? At least that’s what I heard.

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> I have a question. How is blindness not what holds you back from you  living the life that you want?  one of the   things I would like t see us work towards and push for is more trains on Metrolink. I would like to see Metrolink to  add  one train on the 91 Paris  valley  line at 10 PM at night. Because, as of right now, if I wanted to go to a Lakers or clippers game which is only  two miles  from union station, I would not be able to. I would have to catch a $50 Uber and that’s breaking the bank. Does the author of resolution need to be present in order for the NFBC to consider it?  
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>>  1. One More Person Needed for CABS Family Feud Team
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>>  2. Re: aira teleconference tonight (tim at timeldermusic.com)  3. Re: 
>> One More Person Needed for CABS Family Feud Team
>>     (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
>>  4. AB 1705 (Robert Stigile)
>>  5. This Device Translates Text to Braille in Real Time (nancy Lynn)  
>> 6. Re: NorCal Bus Info (Veronica Martinez)  7. Re: NorCal Bus Info 
>> (Jim Barbour)  8. Re: NorCal Bus Info (Veronica Martinez)  9. Re: Cal 
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:19:05 -0700
>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] One More Person Needed for CABS Family Feud Team
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>> Hi All,
>> I hope everyone is getting pumped up about convention.
>> I have been working to create a CABS family feud team, but we need 
>> one more member.  Currently, the people on the team are:
>> Me (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
>> Matthew Gip
>> Carla Scroggins
>> Jane Suh
>> Candace Luther
>> If you are interested in joining our student team, please reply with 
>> your contact information.
>> Have a great rest of the week,
>> Vejas
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:36:50 -0700
>> From: <tim at timeldermusic.com>
>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] aira teleconference tonight
>> Message-ID: <006c01d34378$4e0a22e0$ea1e68a0$@timeldermusic.com>
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>> I cannot attend a call.  However, I encourage Aira to formally add Team Viewer as a feature for agents to support screen sharing on external desktop computers.  I've successfully used it with many agents .  It would be nice if they all had it installed to avoid the delay of downloading and installing the utility.
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>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:10 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] aira teleconference tonight
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>> Yes it is. Look forward to having you on the call. 
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>> Best Regards,
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>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] aira teleconference tonight
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>> Hi,
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>> Is the dial in info the same as last week for the aira cal tonight?
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>> Thanks,
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>> Lauren
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:43:36 -0700
>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] One More Person Needed for CABS Family Feud
>>   Team
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>> Hi All,
>> Apologies for sending this. I mis-read the instructions and thought that I needed 5 friends to be on the team with me, but I see now that only 5 people are needed.
>> Rochelle, I will consult with my group on a  name, then hopefully send you an email later today.
>> Vejas
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>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 09:19, Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I hope everyone is getting pumped up about convention.
>>> I have been working to create a CABS family feud team, but we need one more member.  Currently, the people on the team are:
>>> Me (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
>>> Matthew Gip
>>> Carla Scroggins
>>> Jane Suh
>>> Candace Luther
>>> If you are interested in joining our student team, please reply with your contact information.
>>> Have a great rest of the week,
>>> Vejas
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:24:41 -0700
>> From: Robert Stigile <rstigile at gmail.com>
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] AB 1705
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>> Hello All,
>> I am pleased to notify you that yesterday, Governor Brown signed ab 1705 into law.
>> This means that on January 1st the California State Guide Dog Board will sunset.
>> Congratulations to the California Association of Guide Dog Users and a big thank you to everyone who assisted in this effort.
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-president National Federation of the 
>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>> C: 818-381-9568
>> Email: rstigile at gmail.com
>> You Can Live The Life You Want
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:50:52 -0500
>> From: "nancy Lynn" <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
>> To: "nfbmo list" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>, "NFBC List"
>>   <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>,    "Seniors" <NFBNJ-Seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] This Device Translates Text to Braille in Real
>>   Time
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>> I got this from another list and thought you'd find it interesting.
>> This Device Translates Text to Braille in Real Time Team Tactile 
>> hopes to create an inexpensive and portable device that can raise 
>> text right off the page Read more:
>> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/device-translates-text-brail
>> le-real-time-180963171/#uTBjzwM5T4lKw4Kx.99
>> In the wee hours of Valentine's day last year, a team of six women, 
>> all MIT engineering undergraduates, sat exhausted but exhilarated. 
>> Their table strewn with colorful wires, post it notes, food wrappers, 
>> scraps of papers, shapes cut from cardboard. This was no craft 
>> project gone awry. The team had just competed in MakeMIT?s 
>> hackathon?a competition in which teams of students spend 15 hours 
>> designing, coding, constructing, testing and debugging ambitious projects.
>> The women, competing under the team name 100% Enthusiasm, had set out 
>> to tackle a big challenge: accessibility for the blind. Their idea: a 
>> portable, inexpensive device that could scan text and convert it to 
>> braille in real time. It was something with potential to transform 
>> the lives of some of the
>> 1.3 million
>> Americans<https://nfb.org/images/nfb/documents/pdf/braille_literacy_r
>> eport_web.pdf>
>> who are legally blind.
>> This first iteration was rough. Nearly the size of an adult?s hand, 
>> the mechanics of the device were sandwiched between two panes of 
>> plastic?wires and circuit boards exposed. Six pins poked up through 
>> the top of the device to display a single braille character (letter, number or punctuation mark).
>> It imaged each character of text using an external computer?s webcam, 
>> rather than an internal camera as the team had hoped, explains Chen 
>> ?Bonnie? Wang, one of the team members who is currently a senior 
>> majoring in material science and engineering. It was slow and not 
>> particularly portable. But it worked, translating text to braille. Team 100% Enthusiasm won.
>> The win was just the beginning of their work with the device, which 
>> they dubbed Tactile. Now, many prototypes later, the team has 
>> received another accolade. Tactile is one of nine winners for this 
>> year?s Lemelson-MIT Student 
>> Prize<http://lemelson.mit.edu/winners_circle>, which celebrates the 
>> translation of ?ideas into inventions that improve the world in which 
>> we live,? according to the contest?s website. The winning 
>> inventions?a folding electric drone, proteins to fight superbugs, and 
>> a solar-powered desalination system for off-grid water production, to name a few?tackle a wide range of problems.
>> ?We were super honored to be chosen as one of the winners of the award,?
>> says Wang. The title came with a $10,000 prize that they are hoping 
>> to put back into the project to continue to improve how the device works.
>> The team?s latest prototype, about the size of a candy bar, can 
>> display six characters at a time (the average English word is roughly 
>> five characters<http://norvig.com/mayzner.html> long) and has a built in camera.
>> Users can place it down on a line of text and with a push of a 
>> button, the device takes an image. Optical character recognition then 
>> takes over, identifying the characters on the page using Microsoft?s 
>> Computer Vision API. Then the team?s software translates each 
>> character into braille and subsequently triggers the mechanical 
>> system in the box to raise and lower the pins. They have applied for 
>> a patent for the integration of the system through Microsoft?s 
>> #MakeWhatsNext patent program, which supports women inventors.
>> ?Currently the camera only takes a picture of its field of view,? 
>> Chandani Doshi, one of the team members who is majoring in electrical 
>> engineering and computer science, explains via email. ?We are aiming 
>> to make the device similar to a handheld scanner that allows the user 
>> to scan the entire page in one go.? The idea is to make it as easy as 
>> possible to operate, preventing the user from needing to keep track 
>> of where they are on the page.
>> Though this is not the first real-time text to braille device, most 
>> products are based on digital text, like ebooks or pdfs?and they are 
>> extremely expensive. For example, the HumanWare 
>> Brailliant<http://humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/braille_dis
>> plays> can connect to mobile devices and computers, allowing the user 
>> to type on the six-keyed braille keyboard and read using the one-line 
>> display of 32 characters. Prices for the device start at over $2,500. 
>> Also popular are what?s known as braille note-takers. These are like 
>> mini-computers, allowing word processing, the use of excel and 
>> powerpoint, and internet browsing. But these, too, retail in the 
>> thousands.
>> And a lot of text is not readily available in electronic 
>> format?menus, brochures, receipts, business cards, class handouts and 
>> more. Tactile would raise the text of these inaccessible documents 
>> right off the page. The team hopes to eventually sell the device for a maximum cost of $200.
>> One of the many challenges in development, however, is figuring out a 
>> better way to raise and lower the pins. In similar devices on the 
>> market, this has long been done using piezoelectronics?an expensive 
>> method that harnesses the properties of crystal structures. The team 
>> hopes to use microfluidics (differences in either liquid or air 
>> pressure) or electromagnetism (interactions of electric currents and magnetic fields) to move the pins.
>> They are now testing both systems to figure out which is the least 
>> expensive, but most responsive and shrinkable for their final prototype.
>> Ultimately the team hopes that the final product will be slightly 
>> smaller than their current prototype and display two lines of 18 characters each.
>> They hope to get it to market within two years.
>> ?This opens up the world, really. What limitation is there if you 
>> have a device that would transcribe any document into braille?? the 
>> team?s adviser Paul Parravano, who has been visually impaired since 
>> he was three, inquires in a 
>> video<https://youtu.be/csabnu58EEU?list=PLxd0bZ1RXEztKMidgK9lrZ5sSIJD
>> taxwI> about the device. ?Suddenly the library is open.?
>> The question, however, is how many people will be waiting and ready 
>> to read the library. A commonly cited statistic is that less than 10 
>> percent<https://nfb.org/images/nfb/documents/pdf/braille_literacy_rep
>> ort_web.pdf> of people who are legally blind can actually read 
>> braille. Many people prefer to use text-to-speech technology and 
>> other audio-based programs, says Marion 
>> Hersh<http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/engineering/staff/marionhersh/>, a 
>> researcher who specializes in assistive technology at the University 
>> of Glasgow. Braille is challenging to learn and given the option, she 
>> says, many instead choose audio or even magnification (if they have 
>> limited eyesight).
>> It is important to note, however, that the braille literacy numbers 
>> are based on an outdated mode of measurement: supply of braille books 
>> from American Printing House for the Blind, explains Ike Presley, 
>> National Project Manager for the American Foundation for the Blind. 
>> ?We definitely want to stifle that misconception that braille is dead 
>> and technology is putting braille out of business,? he says. ?If 
>> anything, technology is making braille more accessible.?
>> The women of team Tactile are well aware of the statistic, but 
>> believe that part of the problem is the lack of inexpensive devices 
>> to make braille more available. The market for such devices is small, 
>> so few companies venture in with innovative ideas. ?We don't have a 
>> Microsoft or an Apple ... the tech companies that make the tools for 
>> people who are blind or visually impaired are relatively small,? says Presley.
>> This means less competition, less innovation and higher prices. ?It 
>> really drives up the cost, which limits access to braille even more. 
>> It's just a bad cycle,? says Wang.
>> ?Whether this could encourage people who don?t already know braille 
>> to use it is open to questions,? says Hersh. But she notes that any 
>> new accessibility technology that combines low cost with ease of use 
>> could be extremely helpful in the market.
>> Learning braille means literacy for the blind community, says 
>> Presley, who helps train service providers so they can more 
>> effectively work with the visually impaired. Audio systems don?t 
>> provide the same understanding of language. ?Auditory is great...but 
>> it doesn?t give you the literacy,? he says. ?When you listen to [text 
>> read aloud], you don't know how to spell the words, you don't see the 
>> grammar, you don't see how text is formatted ...But when you read it in braille, you do.?
>> Studies also
>> suggest<https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/jbir/jbir15/jbir05020
>> 2.html> that braille literacy increases both likelihood of being 
>> employed and an overall higher earnings potential for the blind and 
>> visually impaired?a group that has historically suffered high rates 
>> of unemployment.
>> These factors have only made team Tactile more determined to keep 
>> working on their product. All six engineers will graduate this June. 
>> But that isn?t going to slow them down. Three plan to continue 
>> working on Tactile, says Wang, and the others will continue part time.
>> ?These women are on a great path, and as young as they are, if they 
>> can devote the next 20 years of their career to this, wow,? says Presley.
>> ?There's no telling what they might come up with.?
>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:15:16 -0700
>> From: Veronica Martinez <preciousminny32 at att.net>
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NorCal Bus Info
>> Message-ID: <14270D84-D702-48C5-A8EF-99CD7AAC06D9 at att.net>
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>> do you have any information on this yet? I hate to ask again, but I need to know so that I can reserve my ticket. It?s not that long until convention, and if there is no information, I need to figure out how I am going to get there. Thank you.
>> Veronica
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Jim Barbour via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> I expect to post information about the Northern California bus early next week.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your patience,
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> Written While on the Move
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>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Jennifer Westbrook via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> Do we have bus info for Northern CA convention attendees yet?  If so, can you please resend the details?  Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Jennifer Westbrook
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:41:00 -0700
>> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
>> To: Veronica Martinez <preciousminny32 at att.net>
>> Cc: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NorCal Bus Info
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>> The contract is signed and I'll be meeting with folks from Redding, Sacremento, and Stockton in the next day or two to work out times. We'll then post them here.
>> 
>> Sorry for the wait.
>> 
>> Jim
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>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Veronica Martinez wrote:
>>> do you have any information on this yet? I hate to ask again, but I need to know so that I can reserve my ticket. It?s not that long until convention, and if there is no information, I need to figure out how I am going to get there. Thank you.
>>> Veronica
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Jim Barbour via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet..org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I expect to post information about the Northern California bus early next week.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your patience,
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Jennifer Westbrook via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do we have bus info for Northern CA convention attendees yet?  If so, can you please resend the details?  Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jennifer Westbrook
>>>>> 
>>>>> Account Manager
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wells Fargo Merchant Services | 1655 Grant St. 3rd Flr. | Concord, 
>>>>> CA 94520 MAC# A0397-032 Tel 925-765-7093 | Fax 866-935-7945
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 16:15:48 -0700
>> From: Veronica Martinez <preciousminny32 at att.net>
>> To: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
>> Cc: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NorCal Bus Info
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>> thank you very much for this? Please let us know as soon as you can.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The contract is signed and I'll be meeting with folks from Redding, Sacremento, and Stockton in the next day or two to work out times. We'll then post them here.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the wait.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Veronica Martinez wrote:
>>>> do you have any information on this yet? I hate to ask again, but I need to know so that I can reserve my ticket. It?s not that long until convention, and if there is no information, I need to figure out how I am going to get there. Thank you.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Jim Barbour via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I expect to post information about the Northern California bus early next week.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your patience,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Jennifer Westbrook via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do we have bus info for Northern CA convention attendees yet?  If so, can you please resend the details?  Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jennifer Westbrook
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Account Manager
>>>>>> 
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 04:31:30 -0700
>> From: EverHairston <ever.hairston at gmail.com>
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Cal and Melissa are safe
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>> Hello Hoby, Cal and Melissa, please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you. The NFB of California is ready to support you and other Blind victims as a result of this tragic fire.
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Ever Lee Hairston, President
>> National Federation of the Blind of California
>> H: 323 654.2975
>> C: 323 252.9188
>> ever.hairston at gmail.com
>> 
>> You Can Live The Life You Want
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Hoby Wedler via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm so glad all of us from the Federation seem to be safe in Sonoma County. I am in Petaluma, which is very smoky but not threatened now. We may have to evacuate later this evening or tomorrow depending on the wind conditions.. I have many friends in the wine industry who have lost everything. Thank you all for your support!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> -- Hoby
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Mary Willows via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All:
>>> 
>>> I just received a return phone call from Melissa Sanders.  Believe 
>>> it or not, Cal and Melissa are again threatened by fire.  Everything 
>>> in their neighborhood for miles is gone except for their home and a 
>>> few others on their block.  There is nothing left for as far as you 
>>> can see.  There is still a threat that the wind can change and finish wiping out theirblock..
>>> As you may have heard on the news the K mart in Santa Rosa was 
>>> burned to the ground.  It was two blocks from their home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Melissa asked me to post this information to let everyone know that 
>>> they have been evacuated to a hotel in San Jose.  That was the 
>>> closest hotel with availability because of all of the evacuations.  
>>> Cal goes back every day to wet down the house and make sure the house is not burning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Those of us who remember that Cal and Melissa's house burned in a 
>>> robbery several years ago may also remember that Cal was able to save their kitten.
>>> After that the kitten was named Smokey.  I could hear Smokey 
>>> protesting voraciously in the background while I spoke to Melissa.  
>>> She obviously just wants to go home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I told Melissa that we are pulling for them.  Melissa said to tell 
>>> you that they love you and she will make contact when this nightmare is over.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best-
>>> 
>>> Mary Willows
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