[nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200 discount onourBraille products

slery slerythema at insightbb.com
Thu Jan 8 07:34:59 UTC 2009


One question, Dean.

Can we tell public schools that they no longer need to waste a teacher's
time on reading because most of the kids have been auditorilly reading for
years by the time they get to school and that is perfectly acceptable for
them to succeed?

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200 
> discount onourBraille products
> 
> 
> I have to say that I agree with Everett, but at the same 
> time, the conversation isn't too useful and can take away 
> from the essential point.  I am a very literate person, using 
> both Braille and audio reading techniques quite effectively.  
> Nobody will tell me that I am not reading, processing 
> information, when I read auditorially.  At the same time, the 
> real point is that for a blind person to succeed in the world 
> of work and independent living, competency in Braille is 
> somewhere between highly beneficial and essential.  A blind 
> person without high Braille competence has many more 
> opportunities than one who does not.  So yes, non-braille 
> readers can be literate, but the more Braille one has, the better.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200 
> discount on ourBraille products
> 
> Good afternoon Liz,
> 
> What does literacy mean to you?  I would say that the least 
> important part 
> of litercy is the medium by which the symbols are acquired, 
> but is the 
> synthesis of the symbols into meaningful propositions.
> 
> In other words, literacy is about successful communication, 
> not about the 
> means of communication, be it dots, ink or sound.
> 
> Thanks,
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Liz Bottner" <liz.bottner at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200 
> discount on 
> ourBraille products
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I don't mean to offend or start any major heated discussion, 
> but my own personal view is that if someone cannot read print 
> and doesn't know Braille, then they are, by all means, 
> illiterate. Just listening to audio or reading via a 
> screenreader on the computer, in my view, isn't actually 
> reading; that's having things reed to you. I'd be interested 
> in others' thoughts on this matter.
> 
> Just my thoughts, for what they're worth,
> 
> Liz
> 
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