[nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! -$200discount onourBraille products

Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net
Thu Jan 8 13:43:47 UTC 2009


Hi Chris. I do not know in which state you live, but most rehab agencies are 
willing, as part of post-employment services, to invest in equipment. This 
is especially so if your jobs requires you to sometimes work from home.

Warmest regards,

Gary


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Westbrook" <westbchris at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! -$200discount 
onourBraille products


> As much as I like braille and am a proponent of it, I've always thought 
> the argument below was not valid.  Why?  Because braille is so much less 
> available than print.  I think this is the big elephant in the room that 
> no one wants to talk about.  I would love to have a braille display for 
> home, but I just can't afford it.  I can't gedt state help either because 
> I am already employed.  I don't understand why twenty years later braille 
> displays are still just as much out of reach of the average blind person 
> as they were when they were first made.  Yes there is hard copy braille, 
> but it is huge and bulky compared to print.  Braille cannot really be 
> compared to print because it is so much more costly to produce on a mass 
> scale.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
> To: "'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200discount 
> onourBraille products
>
>
>> One question, Dean.
>>
>> Can we tell public schools that they no longer need to waste a teacher's
>> time on reading because most of the kids have been auditorilly reading 
>> for
>> years by the time they get to school and that is perfectly acceptable for
>> them to succeed?
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:25 PM
>>> To: 'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200
>>> discount onourBraille products
>>>
>>>
>>> I have to say that I agree with Everett, but at the same
>>> time, the conversation isn't too useful and can take away
>>> from the essential point.  I am a very literate person, using
>>> both Braille and audio reading techniques quite effectively.
>>> Nobody will tell me that I am not reading, processing
>>> information, when I read auditorially.  At the same time, the
>>> real point is that for a blind person to succeed in the world
>>> of work and independent living, competency in Braille is
>>> somewhere between highly beneficial and essential.  A blind
>>> person without high Braille competence has many more
>>> opportunities than one who does not.  So yes, non-braille
>>> readers can be literate, but the more Braille one has, the better.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 AM
>>> To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200
>>> discount on ourBraille products
>>>
>>> Good afternoon Liz,
>>>
>>> What does literacy mean to you?  I would say that the least
>>> important part
>>> of litercy is the medium by which the symbols are acquired,
>>> but is the
>>> synthesis of the symbols into meaningful propositions.
>>>
>>> In other words, literacy is about successful communication,
>>> not about the
>>> means of communication, be it dots, ink or sound.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Everett
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Liz Bottner" <liz.bottner at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200
>>> discount on
>>> ourBraille products
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I don't mean to offend or start any major heated discussion,
>>> but my own personal view is that if someone cannot read print
>>> and doesn't know Braille, then they are, by all means,
>>> illiterate. Just listening to audio or reading via a
>>> screenreader on the computer, in my view, isn't actually
>>> reading; that's having things reed to you. I'd be interested
>>> in others' thoughts on this matter.
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts, for what they're worth,
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> email:
>>> liz.bottner at gmail.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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