[nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200discountonourBraille products

[slery]

If that is the rationale, then only the teacher would need a copy of any
textbooks because she can read it to the kids.  They do not need their own
copy to access the material.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Westbrook
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:01 AM
> To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - 
> $200discountonourBraille products
> 
> 
> As much as I like braille and am a proponent of it, I've 
> always thought the 
> argument below was not valid.  Why?  Because braille is so much less 
> available than print.  I think this is the big elephant in 
> the room that no 
> one wants to talk about.  I would love to have a braille 
> display for home, 
> but I just can't afford it.  I can't gedt state help either 
> because I am 
> already employed.  I don't understand why twenty years later braille 
> displays are still just as much out of reach of the average 
> blind person as 
> they were when they were first made.  Yes there is hard copy 
> braille, but it 
> is huge and bulky compared to print.  Braille cannot really 
> be compared to 
> print because it is so much more costly to produce on a mass scale.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
> To: "'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200discount 
> onourBraille products
> 
> 
> > One question, Dean.
> >
> > Can we tell public schools that they no longer need to waste a 
> > teacher's time on reading because most of the kids have been 
> > auditorilly reading for years by the time they get to 
> school and that 
> > is perfectly acceptable for them to succeed?
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of Dean Martineau
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:25 PM
> >> To: 'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - 
> $200 discount 
> >> onourBraille products
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to say that I agree with Everett, but at the same time, the 
> >> conversation isn't too useful and can take away from the essential 
> >> point.  I am a very literate person, using both Braille and audio 
> >> reading techniques quite effectively. Nobody will tell me 
> that I am 
> >> not reading, processing information, when I read auditorially.  At 
> >> the same time, the real point is that for a blind person 
> to succeed 
> >> in the world of work and independent living, competency in 
> Braille is
> >> somewhere between highly beneficial and essential.  A blind
> >> person without high Braille competence has many more
> >> opportunities than one who does not.  So yes, non-braille
> >> readers can be literate, but the more Braille one has, the better.
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 AM
> >> To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - 
> $200 discount 
> >> on ourBraille products
> >>
> >> Good afternoon Liz,
> >>
> >> What does literacy mean to you?  I would say that the 
> least important 
> >> part of litercy is the medium by which the symbols are acquired,
> >> but is the
> >> synthesis of the symbols into meaningful propositions.
> >>
> >> In other words, literacy is about successful 
> communication, not about 
> >> the means of communication, be it dots, ink or sound.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Everett
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Liz Bottner" <liz.bottner at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mr. Braille! - $200
> >> discount on
> >> ourBraille products
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I don't mean to offend or start any major heated 
> discussion, but my 
> >> own personal view is that if someone cannot read print and doesn't 
> >> know Braille, then they are, by all means, illiterate. 
> Just listening 
> >> to audio or reading via a screenreader on the computer, in 
> my view, 
> >> isn't actually reading; that's having things reed to you. I'd be 
> >> interested in others' thoughts on this matter.
> >>
> >> Just my thoughts, for what they're worth,
> >>
> >> Liz
> >>
> >> email:
> >> liz.bottner at gmail.com
> >> Visit my livejournal:
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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