[nfbcs] Voiceover with Word

Fri Dec 28 15:30:12 UTC 2012

Yes, that is correct.

Gabe Vega 
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On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:26 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:

> Thanks for all the info, everyone.
> It seems you are saying that a Mac user using Pages and a Windows user using Word can share the same doc seamlessly.  Is that correct?
> Thanks.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Voiceover with Word
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> 
>> yes, documents created in word or pages and and/or reversed keep their visual integrity. another freebee. :-)
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>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Tracy, I hope we have answered your question, which is that you should be able to do what you want but using something other than MS word for OSX.
>>> 
>>> The rest of this email is aimed mostly a Gabe, but I'm posting it publicly.
>>> 
>>> Gabe, I'm taking slight offense at your post, given that it was my post you replied to. You imply, but don't actually call out, that my guesswork was misleading.  I do admit to not researching everything I wrote here, which I made clear with phrases like "I think". However, I don't think you and I actually disagree about anything here, so I'm not sure what information I gave out you feel was misleading.
>>> 
>>> Stripping away the implications about misleading guesswork, what I see is...
>>> 
>>> * There are non-word programs that support reading and editing doc and docx files.
>>> 
>>> Yep, we agree about that.  As I said, Tracy's sister can write documents in word and Tracy can read them using one of the OSX word processors.
>>> 
>>> * Pages and word have feature parity.
>>> 
>>> I'll take your word for this.
>>> 
>>> And then, there was my other question.
>>> 
>>> Can Pages, or other non MS-word word processors, modify documents originally created in MS word without the MS word user noticing unwanted visual formatting changes?
>>> 
>>> This is the one I'm really not sure about, and the one that you didn't comment on.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:02:23AM -0700, Gabe Vega wrote:
>>>> I write this, only so that you will get professional expert advice with out all the guessing that has been going on here. I would hate for you to be lead down the wrong path.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. mac os and most if not all apps on it support the Doc and the Docx files. Doc is used commonly but the new word format Docx is coming in to the mainstream and Mac OS supports them both for reading and writing and editing. you can use apps like Text Edit which is simular in functionality as Wordpad, Itext Express which is a free powerful wordprecessor simular to word. or Pages with is $15.00 which has most if not better features than word. and all these support read and write word files.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. not all apps support the advanced formatting that word does, such as foot notes, tracking of edits ETC only an app called Pages does and runs about $15.
>>>> 
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>>>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the more interesting question is can the word processors on the Mac read docx files produced in microsoft word.  I think they can, which means that tracy's sister can still write documents in word and tracy can read them using something like textedit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the real problem with MS word and OSX is when a non-microsoft program modifies and resaves docx files, little things get changed such as default fonts.  This makes it tough to do collaborative work on a document when multiple people are writing the document, one using word and one using something else.  Also, most non-microsoft word processors don't support the track changes feature.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 09:43:39AM -0500, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>>>>> If she writes a document in TextEdit, she will be able to send it to people using Windows and they will be able to edit it in Word. TextEdit saves documents in Ritch Text format which is a format that both Word and TextEdit can work with.
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>> follow me on Twitter @progressivecat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 8:46 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, that's very helpful.
>>>>>>> My sister wants to share her docs with a variety of people, so she has been using Word.  Do the other doc types supported by VO work for people using Windows, for instance?  If she wrote a doc in Text Edit and sent it to me, who uses Windows, would I be able to easily read it, possibly edit it, and send it back to her?
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Mann" <rmann0581 at gmail.com>
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>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Voiceover with Word
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Microsoft Office is not accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac.  There are other alternative word processors such as Nisus Writer or TextEdit which comes with the Mac.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 3:06 PM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My sister is trying to use Voiceover with her Mac and Word 2011 for OSX.
>>>>>>>>> It is on, and announces the open doc, but it doesn't echo typing or read
>>>>>>>>> any of the actual document.
>>>>>>>>> Does VO work with Word?  Is there a way to make it read the doc?
>>>>>>>>> We looked at VO Help, but it doesn't discuss Word at all, that we saw.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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