[nfbcs] JFW tock and frames

Tue May 8 17:47:11 UTC 2012

LOL, no, not quite what I would call fun.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JFW tock and frames

> Thanks. That's clear, if a bit depressing.
> I think at least some of them must work without Jaws, and with IE, because
> MLB did not ask me what browser I was using, or say that their site
> doesn't work properly with IE8. But I guess I can try it with Firefox,
> next time I feel like killing a couple hours fighting with the computer.
> Is this the fun part?
> Tracy
>
>
>> Sorry, my brain does not seem to be working correctly this morning. A few
>> clarifications.
>> 1. I do not think that websites are obligated to say with which browsers
>> they work or don't work. I have come across quite a few that I have just
>> had
>> to try IE and then Firefox to see which one worked better.
>> 2. What I meant by not working is that those boxes don't work with JAWS. 
>> I
>> have never had a sighted person around to verify that they do work in IE
>> without JAWS, but it is possible that they do.
>> 3. There is the possibility that they don't work in IE, even without 
>> JAWS,
>> especially if they are part of the newer HTML 5 and the version of IE is 
>> 8
>> or earlier. I am having to use Firefox more and more as websites start
>> using
>> the new standard which is not fully supported by IE 8 and earlier.
>> I hope that this clarifies things, and I apologize for the confusing
>> messages.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JFW tock and frames
>>
>>
>>> Hmmm.  Thanks for the explanation.
>>> It seems odd that a website would require Firefox to work properly,
>>> without saying so.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> I have come across those when using Internet Explorer, and I just
>>>> cannot
>>>> write in them. I do not know how to put it other than they will not
>>>> work.
>>>> When using Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, they work fine.
>>>> However,
>>>> I
>>>> do need to check that it is not web visum that is making them work
>>>> correctly.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JFW tock and frames
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Firefox? Eeeeee!
>>>>> What do you mean by "those won't work"?  Could you be more specific?
>>>>> At least what I said made sense. :.)
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you using Internet Explorer? If so, those won't work in IE, and
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to use Firefox instead. Yes, I know exactly what you are talking
>>>>>> about,
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] JFW tock and frames
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what it means when JFW says -- frame, where -- is
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> name, and makes the tock sound it makes when entering a form field?
>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>> is no form, just a frame begin and end.  Am I misinterpreting the
>>>>>>> tock
>>>>>>> sound?
>>>>>>> This happens on the MLB Gameday site, where the frame is the login
>>>>>>> frame
>>>>>>> (with no form fields), and it happened somewhere else recently, but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> forget where.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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