[nfbcs] web browser problem?

Sat Apr 20 14:46:35 UTC 2013

I checked, and proxy server is not checked.
I think, when I have a mo, I'll uninstall and reinstall IE, and see if that 
helps.  It wasn't all that hard to do.
Thanks for your ideas.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] web browser problem?

> Tracy,
>
> I think there is something not quite right.  Did you check your Proxy 
> settings?  They are in Tools, internet Options, the Connections tab, and 
> then push the
> LAN Settings button.  If the Proxy check box is checked, see what is set 
> for the proxy server and then uncheck it unless your ISP has instructed 
> you to
> do otherwise.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:49:21 -0400, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>
>>Thanks for that, Mike.  Zoicks!  What's a person to do, when the same 
>>steps
>>don't get the same result!  I'm getting too old for this stuff. But I'll
>>stop worrying that the Russian mafia have taken over my computer.
>>Tracy
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:10 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] web browser problem?
>
>
>>> tracy:
>>> steve has given you good advice and I see that you've read it. Yes, 
>>> there
>>> can be links in tv listings. Moreover, do you really know that the 
>>> search
>>> link you think you're pointing to is the same in both searches? You 
>>> would
>>> need to look at the source code to know this for certain and even then 
>>> you
>>> might not really know because the actual link might be buried in a
>>> javascript function you cannot easily get at.
>>> I personally don't think your problem lies in the realm of malware or
>>> add-ons but rather in the way Google generates its pages. Different 
>>> pages
>>> are probably generated each time you do a search.. In other words, same
>>> sequence of steps may not lead to the same results.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:54, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike, are you saying you see links in the descriptions of TV listings? 
>>>> I
>>>> wondered if it was the craze for putting ads everywhere, or just my
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think my Google problem is random ads, because I point to the
>>>> link I want before entering, and I've tried insert-escape or insert-tab
>>>> to be sure Jaws is seeing what it's saying. Unless Google is randomly
>>>> taking over.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:35 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] web browser problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> tracy:
>>>>> These links are not a problem. It is current fashion to make a link be
>>>>> only part of a sentence. Contrary to current thinking, it is the
>>>>> sighted, not the blind, who have problems with object permanence. They
>>>>> can't remember where their backarrow or scroll keys are. Thus, they
>>>>> usually want to sea links both at top and bottom of page. The paradigm
>>>>> of one link equals one line is far in the cyberpast.
>>>>> As for your Google problem. I suspect the page is drawn differently 
>>>>> and
>>>>> dynamically each time you do a search. Until the Internet goes back to
>>>>> having NSF run the backbone, which, I suspect will be never, we are
>>>>> stuck with randomly-placed ads and their whole reason for being is 
>>>>> *not*
>>>>> to be easily ignored which they could be were their page placement
>>>>> predictable.
>>>>> Ah, free enterprise!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:30, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if this is a problem or not, or what to do about it.  I
>>>>>> have been having a problem with Google, where, the first time I get
>>>>>> results and choose a link, I get a bunch of ads instead of what I 
>>>>>> want.
>>>>>> The second time I try, I get the link I want.  This is despite using
>>>>>> various ways to be sure I'm actually on the link I think I am,
>>>>>> recommended by this list before.  I think it is something called
>>>>>> "click&jump".  Anyway, I disabled 3rd party cookies, and installed
>>>>>> Spybot Search & Destroy, which hunted out a number of minor threats.
>>>>>> The problem persists, but not as bad.
>>>>>> My question is this:
>>>>>> When I go to a website, I see a lot of what seem to me to be extra
>>>>>> links, which I bet would go to ads, if I clicked on them.
>>>>>> For example, on NFB Newsline Online, at the bottom, there is a bit 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> says "contact by phone:" and the number.  For me, "phone" is a 
>>>>>> separate
>>>>>> link. This doesn't seem right, and it makes reading pages kind of a
>>>>>> pain, since there are a lot of lines with these odd links.
>>>>>> Another example is, if I'm reading the TV listings on Newsline, and,
>>>>>> say, the show description says "the team investigates an insurance
>>>>>> salesman who may be a serial killer", "insurance" will be a link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and if it's a problem, and, 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> so, what to do about it?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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