[nfbcs] web browser problem?

[David Andrews]

I have seen several web sites where JAWS does not see a string of 
text as a link, but it is.  If you press (hit enter) on it, it will 
execute.  So, if you are on a page, and there aren't many, or any 
links, but there are things that seem like links, try hitting them.

Dave

At 01:10 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
>tracy:
>steve has given you good advice and I see that you've read it. Yes, 
>there can be links in tv listings. Moreover, do you really know that 
>the search link you think you're pointing to is the same in both 
>searches? You would need to look at the source code to know this for 
>certain and even then you might not really know because the actual 
>link might be buried in a javascript function you cannot easily get at.
>I personally don't think your problem lies in the realm of malware 
>or add-ons but rather in the way Google generates its pages. 
>Different pages are probably generated each time you do a search.. 
>In other words, same sequence of steps may not lead to the same results.
>
>Mike Freeman
>
>
>On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:54, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>
> > Mike, are you saying you see links in the descriptions of TV 
> listings?  I wondered if it was the craze for putting ads 
> everywhere, or just my problem.
> >
> > I don't think my Google problem is random ads, because I point to 
> the link I want before entering, and I've tried insert-escape or 
> insert-tab to be sure Jaws is seeing what it's saying. Unless 
> Google is randomly taking over.
> > Tracy
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] web browser problem?
> >
> >
> >> tracy:
> >> These links are not a problem. It is current fashion to make a 
> link be only part of a sentence. Contrary to current thinking, it 
> is the sighted, not the blind, who have problems with object 
> permanence. They can't remember where their backarrow or scroll 
> keys are. Thus, they usually want to sea links both at top and 
> bottom of page. The paradigm of one link equals one line is far in 
> the cyberpast.
> >> As for your Google problem. I suspect the page is drawn 
> differently and dynamically each time you do a search. Until the 
> Internet goes back to having NSF run the backbone, which, I suspect 
> will be never, we are stuck with randomly-placed ads and their 
> whole reason for being is *not* to be easily ignored which they 
> could be were their page placement predictable.
> >> Ah, free enterprise!
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:30, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm not sure if this is a problem or not, or what to do about 
> it.  I have been having a problem with Google, where, the first 
> time I get results and choose a link, I get a bunch of ads instead 
> of what I want.  The second time I try, I get the link I 
> want.  This is despite using various ways to be sure I'm actually 
> on the link I think I am, recommended by this list before.  I think 
> it is something called "click&jump".  Anyway, I disabled 3rd party 
> cookies, and installed Spybot Search & Destroy, which hunted out a 
> number of minor threats. The problem persists, but not as bad.
> >>> My question is this:
> >>> When I go to a website, I see a lot of what seem to me to be 
> extra links, which I bet would go to ads, if I clicked on them.
> >>> For example, on NFB Newsline Online, at the bottom, there is a 
> bit that says "contact by phone:" and the number.  For me, "phone" 
> is a separate link. This doesn't seem right, and it makes reading 
> pages kind of a pain, since there are a lot of lines with these odd links.
> >>> Another example is, if I'm reading the TV listings on Newsline, 
> and, say, the show description says "the team investigates an 
> insurance salesman who may be a serial killer", "insurance" will be a link.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and if it's a problem, 
> and, if so, what to do about it?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Tracy