[nfbcs] Java and JAWS was RE: Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in the Workplace

Fri Aug 2 12:40:55 UTC 2013

If you're referring to the Java Access Bridge, I think it's already on ... but I'll check to make sure. and then try that

> From: ntorcolini at wavecable.com
> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:39:47 -0700
> Subject: [nfbcs] Java and JAWS was RE: Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in the Workplace
> 
> What version of Windows are using, and what version of Java is installed?
> Try turning on the JAB switch in the control panel. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jolls
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 5:03 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in the
> Workplace
> 
> Regarding time reporting
> 
> I work for a major corporation and we have time reporting software ... and I
> believe it's a Java application too. If I get into that application with my
> screen reader on, it's totally useless. I have to kill the screen reader to
> be able to enter my time. I've submitted requests for them to fix that
> problem, but as I see it, the request has fallen on deaf ears. The screen
> reader I use is Jaws. Even if I try to enter commands to put the Jaws in
> data entry mode, that fails with this software (web application). All I can
> do is kill Jaws to regain control of the keyboard so I can enter my time.
> Thank God I have vision or else I would be toast. I believe this problem is
> symptomatic of the larger problem in the corporate world that is .... "if
> only one person is being affected by this problem, it's not worth the money
> and time necessary to fix the problem". And so, after having reported this
> problem a few months ago, the problem still goes on. But yes, time
> reporting is a pain. As I say, thank God I have vision (and screen
> enlarging software ZoomText) or else I'd really be up a creek without a
> paddle so to speak.
> 
> 
> 
> And here's a side comment to this which you didn't ask for .... may be an
> interesting discussion point
> 
> 
> 
> My real need, as a low vision person in the corporate world, is to use Jaws
> (or perhaps I should say any accessibility software as there could be other
> packages that others use) as much as possible since it can read things to me
> faster than I can see and read them. That helps me be more productive than
> my natural vision allows me to be. In certain applications (such as non-web
> applications which are windows based applicatios) you can generally use the
> screen reader. After all, the screen reader was initially designed to work
> with the desktop windows application. However with web applications, you
> can't always be as successful with the screen reader. In these situations,
> the HTML has to be formatted properly to ensure Jaws (or other screen
> readers) can successfully read the content. This is not always the case ...
> the HTML might work and display properly, but it also might not be
> completely formatted, and it might be missing elements it needs so that the
> screen reader works. The problem here in the corporate world is that you
> can request a change when your screen reader has issues, but the mentality
> of managers is that if the change is being made only for accessibility
> purposes, and it only benefits one person, managers (in my opinion) weigh
> the cost of the change against the benefit. Since there's no business
> function benefit, and it only helps one person (or perhaps a ery small group
> of people) the change isn't made. Thus, as in the case of the time
> reporting software, even though I made a request for change the request goes
> un-done. Then you just have to make out the best you can. And this doesn't
> just happen in time reporting software. What if you're having difficulties
> in a development platform? Answer - you may be toast and you just can't
> work in the environment you'd like to.
> 
> 
> 
> This all brings up the fact that corporations need to be sensitive to the
> needs of accessibility on all platforms. It hasn't been my experience that
> this is the case.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: jordyn2493 at gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:28:10 -0500
> > To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nfbcs] Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in the 
> > Workplace
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > This summer I had the pleasure of working as an IT intern fixing
> accessibility defects on a company's website. This was my first job, and I
> just had some quick questions regarding what you've experienced in the
> workplace.
> > What do you do if a tool used by the company is inaccessible? For example,
> the tool we use to enter our hours on our timesheet is completely unusable
> by a screen reader. I think it is a Java app or something.
> > We also use a tool for code review which highlights code in different
> colors and associates the highlighted code somehow with comments made by
> reviewers. How would you deal with a situation like this?
> > Also, is there a way to accessibly use the web developer tools to read the
> HTML for a specific link or web element in IE?
> > When you are fixing something like accessibility defects in code, how do
> you efficiently go through someone else's code to find the errors when there
> are multiple files and a zillion lines of code? I need to find the places
> where HTML needs to be added so the screen reader reads content properly.
> > I really do appreciate any help and insight you can give me. If these
> questions are extremely broad, please let me know. This summer we did paired
> programming, so my partner and I figured out things together. However, when
> that's not the case,I want to be as efficient, independent, and productive
> at my job as I possibly can.
> > Thank you,
> > Jordyn
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