[nfbcs] Java and JAWS was RE: Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in the Workplace

Sat Aug 3 00:08:21 UTC 2013

Let me know either way. There are sometimes other things that have to be
done to make it work right that have to due with system variables.

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jolls
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 5:41 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Java and JAWS was RE: Questions Regarding Employment
and Tools used in the Workplace

If you're referring to the Java Access Bridge, I think it's already on ...
but I'll check to make sure. and then try that

> From: ntorcolini at wavecable.com
> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:39:47 -0700
> Subject: [nfbcs] Java and JAWS was RE: Questions Regarding Employment 
> and Tools used in the Workplace
> 
> What version of Windows are using, and what version of Java is installed?
> Try turning on the JAB switch in the control panel. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jolls
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 5:03 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in 
> the Workplace
> 
> Regarding time reporting
> 
> I work for a major corporation and we have time reporting software ... 
> and I believe it's a Java application too. If I get into that 
> application with my screen reader on, it's totally useless. I have to 
> kill the screen reader to be able to enter my time. I've submitted 
> requests for them to fix that problem, but as I see it, the request 
> has fallen on deaf ears. The screen reader I use is Jaws. Even if I 
> try to enter commands to put the Jaws in data entry mode, that fails 
> with this software (web application). All I can do is kill Jaws to regain
control of the keyboard so I can enter my time.
> Thank God I have vision or else I would be toast. I believe this 
> problem is symptomatic of the larger problem in the corporate world 
> that is .... "if only one person is being affected by this problem, 
> it's not worth the money and time necessary to fix the problem". And 
> so, after having reported this problem a few months ago, the problem 
> still goes on. But yes, time reporting is a pain. As I say, thank God 
> I have vision (and screen enlarging software ZoomText) or else I'd 
> really be up a creek without a paddle so to speak.
> 
> 
> 
> And here's a side comment to this which you didn't ask for .... may be 
> an interesting discussion point
> 
> 
> 
> My real need, as a low vision person in the corporate world, is to use 
> Jaws (or perhaps I should say any accessibility software as there 
> could be other packages that others use) as much as possible since it 
> can read things to me faster than I can see and read them. That helps 
> me be more productive than my natural vision allows me to be. In 
> certain applications (such as non-web applications which are windows 
> based applicatios) you can generally use the screen reader. After all, 
> the screen reader was initially designed to work with the desktop 
> windows application. However with web applications, you can't always 
> be as successful with the screen reader. In these situations, the HTML 
> has to be formatted properly to ensure Jaws (or other screen
> readers) can successfully read the content. This is not always the case
...
> the HTML might work and display properly, but it also might not be 
> completely formatted, and it might be missing elements it needs so 
> that the screen reader works. The problem here in the corporate world 
> is that you can request a change when your screen reader has issues, 
> but the mentality of managers is that if the change is being made only 
> for accessibility purposes, and it only benefits one person, managers 
> (in my opinion) weigh the cost of the change against the benefit. 
> Since there's no business function benefit, and it only helps one 
> person (or perhaps a ery small group of people) the change isn't made. 
> Thus, as in the case of the time reporting software, even though I 
> made a request for change the request goes un-done. Then you just have 
> to make out the best you can. And this doesn't just happen in time 
> reporting software. What if you're having difficulties in a 
> development platform? Answer - you may be toast and you just can't work in
the environment you'd like to.
> 
> 
> 
> This all brings up the fact that corporations need to be sensitive to 
> the needs of accessibility on all platforms. It hasn't been my 
> experience that this is the case.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: jordyn2493 at gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:28:10 -0500
> > To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nfbcs] Questions Regarding Employment and Tools used in 
> > the Workplace
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > This summer I had the pleasure of working as an IT intern fixing
> accessibility defects on a company's website. This was my first job, 
> and I just had some quick questions regarding what you've experienced 
> in the workplace.
> > What do you do if a tool used by the company is inaccessible? For 
> > example,
> the tool we use to enter our hours on our timesheet is completely 
> unusable by a screen reader. I think it is a Java app or something.
> > We also use a tool for code review which highlights code in 
> > different
> colors and associates the highlighted code somehow with comments made 
> by reviewers. How would you deal with a situation like this?
> > Also, is there a way to accessibly use the web developer tools to 
> > read the
> HTML for a specific link or web element in IE?
> > When you are fixing something like accessibility defects in code, 
> > how do
> you efficiently go through someone else's code to find the errors when 
> there are multiple files and a zillion lines of code? I need to find 
> the places where HTML needs to be added so the screen reader reads content
properly.
> > I really do appreciate any help and insight you can give me. If 
> > these
> questions are extremely broad, please let me know. This summer we did 
> paired programming, so my partner and I figured out things together. 
> However, when that's not the case,I want to be as efficient, 
> independent, and productive at my job as I possibly can.
> > Thank you,
> > Jordyn
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