[nfbcs] project tracking software

Mon May 13 11:18:31 UTC 2013

I think you are absolutely right.  It certainly ought to be said.  There is
a reason for the law and that law has to do with wanting intelligent and
capable people to work rather than sit around and collect public assistance.
If we don't complain when we see violations of the law, the law does no
good.  It is not self-enforcing.  This is a bit of self-promotion of course,
but I suggest that you look in the Braille Monitor for May.  I think we have
to get a lot more active about the enforcement of section 508.  If we can't
make the government do it, how in the world do we think we can make business
do it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:41 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software

Every one of you on this list with a direct interest in accessibility in
either the federal workplace or state workplace could do well to subscribe
yourselves to fedaccessibility-subscribe at yahoogroups.com if you want to do
it, just send a blank message to that address and you'll start that process.
Inaccessibility of office equipment and software is often maintained by
management in several Federal agencies by blind employees having their jobs
threatened.  When you have this many problems that those problems spread
onto at least two e-mail lists yet Section 508 Co-ordinators report zero
complaints in agencies with blind employees in them, something is rotten in
Denmark!  I don't know of any direct reports, but I've read at least one
other member on the fedaccessibility e-mail list write in general terms
about these kind of incidents.  Very probably lucrative for managers to
suppress complaints since it's reasonable to expect corporations that will
not do proper accessibility to be compensating those managers to keep the
accessibility lid on.  The corporations probably reason a few good regular
payments to certain federal managers in both the acquisition chain at first
for getting the software licenses purchased first then paying off management
chains that reach down to blind employees is less expensive than doing
accessibility properly.  I don't know that any of this is correct and if I
ever run into specific cases those will be made known but based on logic of
bribes and pay offs this appears to be a very feasible structure for how
when and why corporate accessibility violators would conduct their business.

On Sat, 11 May 2013, Tracy Carcione wrote:

> I know this is a ridiculous thing to say, but there is a law requiring 
> the government to only purchase accessible software, right?  Yet 
> they're using JIRA, which Susie says is inaccessible.  Thus, they're 
> breaking the law.  I just thought it had to be said.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO"
> <Susan.Stanzel at kcc.usda.gov>
> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> 
> 
> > The project lead sometimes has to use HP Quallity Center because the 
> > Testing and Certification Office is part of our team. We submit our 
> > software to them for their review before it goes to production. It 
> > would be handy if I could use it, but more handy if I could use JIRA.
> >
> > Susie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve 
> > Jacobson
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:24 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> >
> > Susie,
> >
> > That is interesting that the government is using HP Quality Center.  
> > I had trouble using it but it turned out I didn't have to so I did not
pursue it.
> > However, I thought it was more for developing and executing test 
> > cases, although maybe that is just one use.
> > Whether it helps or not, if I have to use it, knowing it is used by 
> > the government could give me more of a lever to get them to fix 
> > those things that don't appear to be accessible.  Unfortunately, I 
> > think some of the problem I have seen with HPQC may have to do with 
> > screen readers not keeping up as well as they might with modern web
approaches.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2013 13:59:16 +0000, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas 
> > City, MO
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Good moring Everyone,
> >
> > >There are two different project and bug tracking programs used at USDA.
> > >They are JIRA which appears not to be accessible and HP
> > Quallity Center which I am not forced to use. Do any of you 
> > successfully use project tracking software? I wish all I had to do in my
job was code (grin).
> >
> > >Susie Stanzel
> >
> >
> >
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