[nfbcs] project tracking software

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sat May 11 23:06:37 UTC 2013 

Yeah; Boston's children's Hospital doesn't repair them anymore. Last time I
got one fixed was in 2003 or so. If the gentleman wants an equivalent now,
he could get it from Access Solutions.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:34 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software

Add in dyslectics and that stereotypical number grows slightly.  I once was
on an Amtrak Train traveling out of Washington D.C. and got approached by a
dyslectic worker before C.A.P. ever existed and was asked about my speech
synthesizer system for my computer.  It turned out this worker at home had
one of those $1,500.00 dectalk synthesizers and it had broken.  I told him I
don't use Dectalk anywhere and don't know any alternate repair sites for
them but do use a doubletalk lt synthesizer and explained what I paid for
it.  He probably bought a double talk lt synthesizer and was very happy to
do so.

On Sat, 11 May 2013, Mike Freeman wrote:

> Jude:
> 
> I don't think there are enough blind persons working for government to 
> warrant the time and effort that would be needed to implement a bribe 
> and payoff stratagem.
> 
> I think the real problem lies in our small numbers and our inability 
> to exact a sufficient penalty for inaccessibility. We're trying to 
> remedy this situation now (a recent lawsuit against the U.S. 
> Department of Labor) but it's going to be a long slog.
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> DaShiell
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:41 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> 
> Every one of you on this list with a direct interest in accessibility 
> in either the federal workplace or state workplace could do well to 
> subscribe yourselves to fedaccessibility-subscribe at yahoogroups.com if 
> you want to do it, just send a blank message to that address and 
> you'll start that process.  Inaccessibility of office equipment and 
> software is often maintained by management in several Federal agencies 
> by blind employees having their jobs threatened.  When you have this 
> many problems that those problems spread onto at least two e-mail 
> lists yet Section 508 Co-ordinators report zero complaints in agencies 
> with blind employees in them, something is rotten in Denmark!  I don't 
> know of any direct reports, but I've read at least one other member on 
> the fedaccessibility e-mail list write in general terms about these 
> kind of incidents.  Very probably lucrative for managers to suppress 
> complaints since it's reasonable to expect corporations that will not 
> do proper accessibility to be compensating those managers to keep the 
> accessibility lid on.  The corporations probably reason a few good 
> regular payments to certain federal managers in both the acquisition 
> chain at first for getting the software licenses purchased first then 
> paying off management chains that reach down to blind employees is 
> less expensive than doing accessibility properly.  I don't know that 
> any of this is correct and if I ever run into specific cases those 
> will be made known but based on logic of bribes and pay offs this 
> appears to be a very feasible structure for how when and why corporate 
> accessibility violators would conduct their business.
> 
> On Sat, 11 May 2013, Tracy Carcione wrote:
> 
> > I know this is a ridiculous thing to say, but there is a law 
> > requiring the government to only purchase accessible software, 
> > right?  Yet they're using JIRA, which Susie says is inaccessible.  Thus,
they're breaking the law.
> I
> > just thought it had to be said.
> > Tracy
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City,
MO"
> > <Susan.Stanzel at kcc.usda.gov>
> > To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> > 
> > 
> > > The project lead sometimes has to use HP Quallity Center because 
> > > the
> Testing
> > > and Certification Office is part of our team. We submit our 
> > > software to
> them
> > > for their review before it goes to production. It would be handy 
> > > if I
> could
> > > use it, but more handy if I could use JIRA.
> > >
> > > Susie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:24 PM
> > > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> > >
> > > Susie,
> > >
> > > That is interesting that the government is using HP Quality 
> > > Center.  I
> had
> > > trouble using it but it turned out I didn't have to so I did not 
> > > pursue
> it.
> > > However, I thought it was more for developing and executing test 
> > > cases, although maybe that is just one use.
> > > Whether it helps or not, if I have to use it, knowing it is used 
> > > by the government could give me more of a lever to get them to fix 
> > > those things that don't appear to be accessible.  Unfortunately, I 
> > > think some of the problem I have seen with HPQC may have to do 
> > > with screen readers not
> keeping
> > > up as well as they might with modern web approaches.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Jacobson
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2013 13:59:16 +0000, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas 
> > > City,
> MO
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Good moring Everyone,
> > >
> > > >There are two different project and bug tracking programs used at
USDA.
> > > >They are JIRA which appears not to be accessible and HP
> > > Quallity Center which I am not forced to use. Do any of you 
> > > successfully
> use
> > > project tracking software? I wish all I had to do in my job was 
> > > code
> (grin).
> > >
> > > >Susie Stanzel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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