[nfbcs] "empty" pdf

Wed Jan 15 13:51:30 UTC 2014

This probably has to do with the way it is scanned. I have found no fix for this from the recipient's end. If I am scanning a PDF to send to someone, however, I can always open the file and insert spaces where they should be.

Chris Nusbaum, Secretary
Maryland Association of Blind Students

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> On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Nancy Coffman <nancylc at sprynet.com> wrote:
> 
> The other problem I have had come up with PDF files is that many times they are rendered without spaces between the words. Has anyone found a fix for that?
> 
> Nancy Coffman
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>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:01 AM, "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> K1000 at work would be a good idea and would not violate their very generous
>> user policy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:21 AM
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] "empty" pdf
>> 
>> Thanks for all the ideas.  For this particular doc, since it was just an
>> example of something, I called the user and had him explain it.  However,
>> this "empty" document problem has cropped up a lot lately, so I'm saving all
>> your suggestions for next time.
>> Tracy
>> 
>>> If Insert-Z works with PDF files, you may be able to do this.  My 
>>> experience with Window-Eyes (not doing OCR but pasting formatted text 
>>> from a PDF into Word) showed that I needed to do Select All, Copy, 
>>> Paste for each page individually.
>>> 
>>> In Word 2003 you print your PDF to the Microsoft Office Document Image 
>>> Writer, which has an option to save to a file.  Then you use Microsoft 
>>> Document Imaging to recognize the text.  I didn't find it to do a very 
>>> good job.
>>> 
>>> My favorite way to deal with image-only PDF's at home is to use 
>>> Omnipage, which is now at version 19.  It puts some PDF-processing 
>>> options on the context menu for PDF files in Windows Explorer.  It is 
>>> sometimes even useful on PDF's that have text, but it can also put a 
>>> lot of I's or L's into your file as well.
>>> 
>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer National Library Service for 
>>> the Blind and Physically Handicapped
>>> Library of Congress   202-707-0535
>>> http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>> The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those 
>>> of the Library of Congress, NLS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise 
>>> M Robinson
>>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:40 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] "empty" pdf
>>> 
>>> Yes, turn off jaws, do a ctrl a to select all, ctrl c to copy, alt tab 
>>> to word and paste with ctrl v then hit the ctrl key and let go which 
>>> takes you into paste options then hit t to keep text only which 
>>> essentially turns that image into text---then turn jaws back on and 
>>> read
>>> 
>>> Denise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've received a pdf attachment with a file length of 35 KB, but when 
>>>> I open it Adobe says it's an empty document.
>>>> If I were at home, I'd feed it through Kurzweil, but I don't have 
>>>> Kurzweil  on this PC.
>>>> I tried Jaws convenient OCR, but it wouldn't start.
>>>> Are there other ways to get at the data in this doc?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
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