[nfbcs] Fwd: Collecting Information for Microsoft's new CAO
Greg Kearney
gkearney at gmail.com
Sat Feb 20 03:16:29 UTC 2016
Boy that's an issue loaded with politics if ever there was one
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Greg Kearney
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Amanda Lacy via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Wondering why no one has said the obvious: Windows needs a
> fully-functional built-in screen reader.
>
>> On 2/19/16, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Some people will say that this is not accessibility, but I very much think
>> that it is. Have an option to bring back the old menubar instead of that
>> stupid ribbon. I basically have to memorize all of the keystrokes from
>> office 2003 in order to get anything done because the stuff on the ribbon
>> is
>> iimpossible to find, has keystrokes that are four, five, or six steps long,
>> and, in some cases, do not work.
>> Some of the old shortcut keys do not work anymore, like pressing alt p in
>> Outlook to get to the options for a message. If you look hard enough, you
>> can get back to the old dialogs for different stuff, like page layout in
>> Word or message options in Outlook, but it takes ten million steps to get
>> there. Okay, exaggerating, but that is what it seems like.
>> There is another problem with Internet Explorer. I do not know if it
>> has been fixed in the new browser. Screen readers often send an
>> accessibility event instead of passing through the keystroke of enter or
>> space. When this happens, the browser decides how to handle it. All other
>> browsers, afaik, use mouse down, mouse up, click as the events that the
>> browser fires for an accessibility event, but Internet Explorer only uses
>> click. Many web companies do not know this and make controls that listen on
>> mouse up, so they are not accessible with screen readers and Internet
>> Explorer.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanine Lineback
>> via nfbcs
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 11:09 AM
>> To: Doug Lee
>> Cc: Jeanine Lineback; List for teachers and trainers of adaptive
>> technology;
>> Jeanine Lineback via nfbcs
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Collecting Information for Microsoft's new CAO
>>
>> Thank you Doug,
>> Regarding the Link 2013 in the Skype for business issues with jaws and
>> other
>> screen readers like NVDA I have also reported these problems. :-) They are
>> a
>> major issue especially the notifications taking over from other
>> applications. Definitely a productivity downer. Frown
>>
>> Dictated on an iPhone.
>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please pass this on, though Anne is well aware of this concern, and
>>> the fact that I've been harping about this for about nine months. :)
>>>
>>> Two serious issues in Lync 2013 and Skype for Business 2016, highest
>> priority first:
>>>
>>> 1. Every incoming chat message fires a MenuOpened event and forces AT
>>> users to Alt+Tab twice in order to continue whatever they were doing
>>> before the message arrived. This is a very severe productivity killer,
>>> and this issue alone has forced me to recommend to large companies
>>> that they refrain from upgrading beyond Lync
>>> 2010 for users who are blind or use a screen reader.
>>>
>>> Note that while I am aware that the delay in fixing this issue is due
>>> to difficulty deciding what system to use for incoming chat
>>> notifications, I urge that the menuOpened events be stopped
>>> immediately even if this results in no notification of an incoming chat.
>> Silent chat arrival is a problem but does not impair use of every other
>> application on the computer.
>>>
>>> 2. Frequently during an active voice call in Lync 2013 and Skype for
>>> Business 2016, the keyboard is taken over in such a way as to prevent
>>> many JAWS commands from working. Again, a user must Alt+Tab to rectify
>>> this situation. My very rough estimate is that this happens at least once
>> every 5-10 minutes, though my recollection of the time interval is
>> imprecise.
>>>
>>> I am forwarding this message to some members of my office
>>> accessibility team in case they have further thoughts.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:03:25AM -0600, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
>>> I have been asked to circulate the following message. This also applies
>> to your own personal experience with Microsoft product, even though the
>> below email specifies serving students and adults.
>>>
>>> Jeanine Lineback
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: "McSorley, Jan" <jan.mcsorley at pearson.com>
>>>> Date: February 16, 2016 at 12:42:29 PM CST
>>>> To: Jeanine Kay Lineback <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>, Edgar Lozano
>>>> <lozano.edgar94 at gmail.com>, Su Park <su.park98 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Collecting Information for Microsoft's new CAO
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I just got off a call with Anne Taylor who, as you know, used to be the
>> Director of Access Technology at the National Federation of the Blind. She
>> now works for Microsoft and her boss is Microsoft's new Chief Accessibility
>> Officer.
>>>>
>>>> Anne asked me to compile a list of access barriers in Microsoft products
>> that impede the work I am trying to accomplish at Pearson, but I would like
>> to take this opportunity to get additional feedback from others in the
>> field. I would love to add your insights and opinions on how Microsoft
>> could help improve education, productivity, etc. of people with
>> disabilities by making improvements in the accessibility of their products.
>>>>
>>>> I will be working on a list of ideas for Anne, but if you have any
>> thoughts or feedback on the following questions, I will be sure to share
>> your name(s) as contributors to the list:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Are there any access barriers to using Microsoft products that make
>>>> it
>> difficult for you to serve students or adults with disabilities. For
>> example:
>>>> Word
>>>> PowerPoint
>>>> Excel
>>>> Windows Operating Systems
>>>> Windows Browsers
>>>> 2. Is there anything you wish Microsoft products would/could/should do
>> that they are not doing?
>>>>
>>>> 3. In your opinion, what should Microsoft's accessibility priorities
>>>> be?
>>>>
>>>> Any help or input you could provide would be appreciated. This is a
>> unique opportunity to get ideas and requests up the chain at Microsoft, so
>> please don't underestimate the importance of your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Please share with others in your network as you see fit. I will be
>> reviewing the list with Anne Taylor the week of March 22nd, so there is
>> time
>> to reach out to others.
>>>> _________________
>>>>
>>>> For kids
>>>>
>>>> Jan McSorley
>>>> Head of Accessibility
>>>> School Line of Business
>>>> Pearson Assessment Centre
>>>>
>>>> M: (512) 673-9569
>>>> E: jan.mcsorley at pearson.com
>>>>
>>>> Pearson
>>>> Always Learning
>>>> Learn more at www.pearsonk12.com
>>>>
>>>> We put a man on the moon in the 1960's ... surely we can make
>>>> information
>> technology fully accessible to people with disabilities. It can be done
>> ...
>> it must be done ... it will be done!
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