[nfbcs] NVDA and JAWS [was "Re: Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations"]

Sun Jan 17 04:15:29 UTC 2016

Thank you. I was going to say something along those lines, but I could not
think of the best way to say it.

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
Chaltain via nfbcs
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:55 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Cc: Christopher Chaltain
Subject: [nfbcs] NVDA and JAWS [was "Re: Petition Asking President Obama To
Direct the JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations"]

I agree that it's good to have NVDA in your tool box regardless of what
version of JAWS you're running, but it isn't always possible for people to
keep up with a product like JAWS, and using two different screen readers can
be frustrating. I think it's OK to suggest JAWS, but there's no need to make
anyone feel bad by calling the tools they can afford to use "antiquated".

On 16/01/16 15:18, Jude DaShiell via nfbcs wrote:
> This is why when jaws users know they're not going to be able to 
> update jaws it's a good idea to have installed nvda to do the jobs 
> their antiquated version of jaws can no longer do.
>
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Mike Freeman via nfbcs wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:52
>> From: Mike Freeman via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the
>>     JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations
>>
>> excess ability does not imply backward compatibility. Your version of 
>> jaws is several versions out of date. I suspect it may be part of the 
>> problem.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:52, Jennifer Aberdeen via nfbcs 
>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is this patition not accessible? When I click on the submit 
>>> button, in different ways; enter, space, left mouse button on the 
>>> num pad, nothing happens.
>>>
>>> I'm using jaws 13 with win 7 and IE 11.
>>>
>>> Jen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Curtis Chong via nfbcs
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:38 PM
>>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Curtis Chong
>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the 
>>> JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations
>>>
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, the National Federation of the Blind 
>>> launched a petition (the link to which is provided below) calling on 
>>> the Obama administration promptly to release the long-awaited ADA 
>>> internet regulations. On the 20th anniversary of the Americans with 
>>> Disabilities Act (way back in 2010), President Obama said that he 
>>> would issue regulations implementing the requirement for accessible 
>>> websites, noting that they would be "the most important updates to 
>>> the ADA since its original enactment."
>>> President Obama now says that the regulations will not be released 
>>> until 2018, after he leaves office.
>>>
>>> For those of who are blind, inaccessible websites can make it 
>>> impossible to apply for jobs, participate in online courses, or 
>>> conduct vital personal financial business. Website developers need 
>>> guidance on how to comply with the law. Failing to provide that 
>>> guidance is irresponsible and inconsistent with President Obama's 
>>> expressed commitment to civil rights.
>>>
>>> If you are interested in signing the petition (and I hope you are), 
>>> point your browser to this link.
>>>
>>> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-us-department-justi
>>> ce-promp
>>>
>>> tly-release-ada-internet-regulations
>>>
>>> As an example of the need for these regulations, some JAWS users 
>>> running Internet Explorer have reported a problem with the "sign" 
>>> button when attempting to add their name. Here are some solutions to 
>>> help mitigate that problem.
>>>
>>> 1.            Try routing the JAWS cursor to PC (Insert+Numpad
>>> Minus), and
>>> pressing  the left mouse button (Numpad Slash), and the "sign" 
>>> button will be selected.
>>>
>>> 2.            Alternatively, you can sign the petition using the Mozilla
>>> Firefox browser.
>>>
>>> The petition is reported to be accessible using iOS devices such as 
>>> the iPad or iPhone.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Curtis Chong, President
>>> National Federation of the Blind in Computer Science
>>>
>>>
>>>
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