[nfbcs] Reliable keyboard shortcut in Windows 10 to switch between applications

Dr. Denise M Robinson deniserob at gmail.com
Sat Apr 15 20:07:46 UTC 2017


Yes Tony--alt esc but you knew what I was talking about--will keep
exploring options. I do like how alt esc snaps programs into place fast.

You also know once you script it--you got exactly what you want

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On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Denise,
>
> I tried the shortcuts you mentioned. That's something new to me, but
> that's still not what I'm looking for.
>
> Windows+Tab maybe handy sometimes, as it displays the list of open
> apps. However, switching to Cygwin would require finding it first in
> the list I'm trying to find a way to switch to Cygwin with just a
> single keystroke.
>
> Alt+Escape seems to be switching to the previous application and then
> minimizing the current one. This way I can indeed switch to Cygwin,
> but I don't know how many times I'd have to press it.
>
> Windows+Escape doesn't seem to do anything. I guess that was a typo
> and you meant Alt+Escape.
>
> So I'm still looking  for a single-keystroke way to switch to Cygwin.
> I feel that it's time for me to do it myself using jaws scripting.
>
> Anyway, thanks for  your reply. If you come up with any other way to
> switch apps, please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
> On 4/15/17, Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tony
> >
> > Have you tried windows esc to instantly change windows or windows tab
> which
> > is like a roladex option?--I like windows esc better because it is
> instant
> > to the next program.
> >
> > If you do not like these--let me know and I will keep pondering
> >
> > *Dr Denise M Robinson*
> > Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> > CEO, TechVision, LLC
> > Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
> > instruction for schools
> > Also Private training to your needs
> > 423-573-6413
> >
> > Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Denise,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your reply, that's a new way to switch between the
> >> applications. Unfortunately, that's not what I'm looking for. I am
> >> looking for a single shortcut that would switch me to a given
> >> application that I have in mind. Let me give you an example.
> >>
> >> Suppose I am currently in Internet Explorer and I would like to switch
> >> to Cygwin. Surely I can Alt-tab through my windows and find Cygwin
> >> there. I might have to press Alt-tab for 3 or 5 times, maybe even
> >> more. Every time I press alt-tab I'd have to read the name of the next
> >> application, which takes time, given the fact that I use braille. In
> >> the end it might take me ten, twenty or thirty seconds to switch to
> >> Cygwin. When I'm done with Cygwin, the same process would repeat again
> >> to switch back to internet explorer.
> >> Same applies to Insert+F10 shortcut, except I won't have to keep Alt
> >> pressed while looking for Cygwin in the list.
> >>
> >> Now I have another set of keyboard shortcuts, like Windows+5 that
> >> switches me to Cygwin and windows+3 to Internet explorer. That's
> >> exactly the kind of shortcut that I'm looking for, since it would
> >> allow me to switch to Cygwin in just a single keystroke, without the
> >> pain of going through the list of applications and reading their
> >> names.
> >> The problem with this set of keyboard shortcuts is that they are very
> >> unreliable, they work maybe 80% of the time. And since they are
> >> provided by Windows and not Jaws, Microsoft will never bother to fix
> >> that kind of bugs.
> >>
> >> So to reiterate my questions:
> >> 1. Is there a way to make Windows+digit shortcuts more reliable?
> >> OR:
> >> 2. Is there another way (jaws script, autohotkey, any other hacking
> >> way) to implement the same functionslity? For example, I would love to
> >> have a jaws swcript, that can switch me to Cygwin window, and then I
> >> would assign this script to a shortcut like Ctrl+Shift+Alt+C or
> >> something. And then no matte where I am I would have the peace of
> >> mind, knowing that I can switch to Cygwin in just a single keystroke.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/14/17, Dr. Denise M Robinson via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> > I believe you may be looking for the insert f10 option which opens all
> >> > applications then all you have to do is arrow up and down to go to the
> >> app
> >> > you want?
> >> >
> >> > *Dr Denise M Robinson*
> >> > Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> >> > CEO, TechVision, LLC
> >> > Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low
> vision/virtual
> >> > instruction for schools
> >> > Also Private training to your needs
> >> > 423-573-6413
> >> >
> >> > Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,
> Office
> >> > products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> >> > keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Tony Malykh via nfbcs <
> >> nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Windows+digit is not reliable, read my original message.
> >> >> Ctrl+f6 doesn't seem to work at all. I tried it in IE and CMD. in CMD
> >> >> nothing happens, in IE I think it navigates to the previous page in
> >> >> the same window.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4/14/17, Andy B. via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> >> > Try pressing Windows+1-0. These are shortcuts for apps in the
> >> >> > taskbar,
> >> >> and
> >> >> > include open and closed apps. To cycle between other windows within
> >> the
> >> >> > same
> >> >> > app, try ctrl+f6. I know it works for Office apps.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tony
> >> Malykh
> >> >> via
> >> >> > nfbcs
> >> >> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:55 AM
> >> >> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> > Cc: Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com>
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Reliable keyboard shortcut in Windows 10 to
> >> switch
> >> >> > between applications
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I know that Alt-tab can cycle through all the apps. That is
> >> >> > inconvenient
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > me since I'd have to press it unknown amount of times to switch to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> app
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > need. I wish I could assign keyboard shortcuts like windows+2 for
> IE
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > windows+3 for CMD.exe and so on. This way I would have to press
> just
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > single key combination for any app. And this way eventually muscle
> >> >> > memory
> >> >> > will start forming.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > oh, and I use jaws with a braille reader, so looking for the right
> >> >> > app
> >> >> with
> >> >> > alt-tab takes a long time for me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 4/13/17, Larry Wayland via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> If you continue to hold the alt key down and press the tab key it
> >> will
> >> >> >> cycle through all the open aps. Just don't release the alt between
> >> tab
> >> >> >> presses.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tony
> >> Malykh
> >> >> >> via nfbcs
> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:51 PM
> >> >> >> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >> Cc: Tony Malykh
> >> >> >> Subject: [nfbcs] Reliable keyboard shortcut in Windows 10 to
> switch
> >> >> >> between applications
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am typically running several application: IE, CMD, Cygwin and
> >> Visual
> >> >> >> Studio. I am looking for a keyboard shortcut to switch to a
> >> particular
> >> >> >> application.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  Alt-tab is NOT what I'm looking for, since it switches to the
> last
> >> >> >> used application. I would like to have one shourtcut for IE,
> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> for MCD and so on, so that whenever I want to switch to IE I would
> >> >> >> press that shourtcut just once.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  Windows key + numbers. This is what I'm currently using. For
> >> >> >> example
> >> >> >> I have Windows key + 2 switches me to IE. The problem with it is
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> it  is frustratingly unreliable. They only work about 80% of the
> >> >> >> times,  and for the remaining 20% they set the focus to the task
> >> >> >> bar.
> >> >> >>  Sometimes the success rate goes down even lower than 50%, at
> which
> >> >> >> point I have to reboot my computer. I've had this problem on two
> >> >> >> computers, one of which had a brand new windows. By the way, does
> >> >> >> anyone else experience the unreliability of this shortcut, or only
> >> me?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  Ctrl+Alt+Letter is NOT what I'm looking for. You can assign this
> >> type
> >> >> >> of shortcuts in the properties of applications on the desktop. But
> >> >> >> that would start a new application instead of switching to an
> >> existing
> >> >> > one.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  So:
> >> >> >>  1. Is there a way to make windows key + number keyboard shortcut
> >> more
> >> >> >> reliable?
> >> >> >>  Or:
> >> >> >>  2. Is there a way to assign keyboard shortcuts to specific apps?
> >> >> >> Maybe a jaws script or something?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  I'm using the latest Windows 10 and Jaws 17.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> Tony
> >> >> >>  Thanks
> >> >> >>
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