[nfbcs] Putty accessibility

Sun Apr 16 17:11:03 UTC 2017

Well, that's a good point. What you'd have to do, even in linux, is to 
enable the screen reader in the virtual machine. There is a really good 
screen reader, speakup,  for the linux character interface. And it is 
enable by default if you turn it on during the install in debian linux. 
I had to abandon Windows years ago because I am a linux sys admin and I 
decided it just wasn't practical to admin linux machines from Windows. 
But if I had to have Windows on my desktop, I think I'd try the virtual 
machine approach.

Back then I tried putty, SecureCRT, teraterm, and openssh. What I used 
most was probably nvda and openssh.

On 04/16/2017 11:58 AM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> VM's that require splitting memory generally don't work well with Windows
> when using a screen reader, particularly if the screen reader is JAWS.
>
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> Have you considered using a virtual machine? I am a native linux user so I
> don't know much about virtualization in Windows. But I use virtualbox and I
> know that's available for Windows too. Virtualbox has a really nice command
> line interface that I use to create and operate my virtual machines.
> On 04/15/2017 11:30 PM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs wrote:
>> I tried that option with Linux machines provided by my university, and
>> unfortunately, I can't ssh from the machine I have ssh'ed into due to
>> some permissions issues. I was able to get Putty working reasonably
>> though.
>>
>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know if I'm going too far, but I just had another idea that
>>> might involve no hacking. If you have access to a Linux machine, you
>>> might want to set up google cloud client thereand then ssh to that
>>> Linux machine and inside the ssh session do another ssh inside google
>>> cloud. I never worked with Google cloud, but since that's Google, I
>>> think they must have a Linux version.
>>> And if you don't have a Linux instance at hand, you can get one in
>>> amazon EC2 cloud for $10 a year. That's what I do, and amazon's
>>> website is fully accessible with jaws.
>>>
>>> --Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, will give it a shot. Thanks everyone.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kartik,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking that if you cannot find a proper solution, you might
>>>>> try some hacking.
>>>>> What would happen if you don't have putty installed on your computer?
>>>>> Maybe the google client would ask you which ssh client to use?
>>>>> If not, then what I would do is to replace putty.exe with my own
>>>>> program, that just prints out the command line arguments. This way
>>>>> you would know how the google client invokes putty. Once you know
>>>>> the arguments, you can translate them into a call to ssh.exe from
> Cygwin.
>>>>> You can even write a program that would do the conversion for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/17, Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not sure, but that seems like the kind of thing the web
>>>>>> browser could be configured to do differently.  That is, launch a
>>>>>> different SSH client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using Cygwin for the past four years, and it works
>>>>>>> really well. Unfortunately, I cannot ssh into a Google Cloud VM
>>>>>>> on Windows through Cygwin. Apparently, it automatically launches
>>>>>>> it in putty, which is getting hard to work with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Louis Maher <ljmaher at swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Kartik ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before I retired two years ago, I would have recommended
>>>>>>>> SecureCRT  (access Linux through windows) Terminal emulator
>>>>>>>> (http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/) instead of putty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JAWS worked very well with SecureCRT.  SecureCRT costs around $70.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Louis Maher
>>>>>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>>>>>> E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:11 PM
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>>>>>>>> Cc: Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Putty accessibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, these do not work anymore. The menu has the
>>>>>>>> option to copy everything to the clickboard, but not paste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Willem Venter via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it in years, but I know you can paste by
>>>>>>>>> pressing
>>>>>>>>> alt+space and navigating to the edit menu, where there is a
>>>>>>>>> alt+paste
>>>>>>>>> menu. Also, I'm not sure about this, but double tapping the
>>>>>>>>> insert key might paste too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone used putty before? It seems like the only way to
>>>>>>>>>> paste from clickboard is by mouse. Is there a way around it?
>>>>>>>>>> Also, vim does not read out text in the console for some
>>>>>>>>>> reason. Are there any workarounds?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> -Kartik Sawhney,
>>>>>>>>>> +1-(510) 766-3419
>>>>>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/
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