[nfbcs] Putty accessibility

Sun Apr 16 22:48:45 UTC 2017

Jack,

Do you know any good accessible  way to either install Linux inside a
VM or obtain a pre-installed VM image? I was exploring the possibility
of using either VirtualBox or qemu, but coulden't find an accessible
way of installing Linux.

Tony

On 4/16/17, Jack Heim via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Well, that's a good point. What you'd have to do, even in linux, is to
> enable the screen reader in the virtual machine. There is a really good
> screen reader, speakup,  for the linux character interface. And it is
> enable by default if you turn it on during the install in debian linux.
> I had to abandon Windows years ago because I am a linux sys admin and I
> decided it just wasn't practical to admin linux machines from Windows.
> But if I had to have Windows on my desktop, I think I'd try the virtual
> machine approach.
>
> Back then I tried putty, SecureCRT, teraterm, and openssh. What I used
> most was probably nvda and openssh.
>
>
> On 04/16/2017 11:58 AM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>> VM's that require splitting memory generally don't work well with Windows
>> when using a screen reader, particularly if the screen reader is JAWS.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Heim via
>> nfbcs
>> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:52 AM
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>> Cc: Jack Heim
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Putty accessibility
>>
>> Have you considered using a virtual machine? I am a native linux user so
>> I
>> don't know much about virtualization in Windows. But I use virtualbox and
>> I
>> know that's available for Windows too. Virtualbox has a really nice
>> command
>> line interface that I use to create and operate my virtual machines.
>> On 04/15/2017 11:30 PM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs wrote:
>>> I tried that option with Linux machines provided by my university, and
>>> unfortunately, I can't ssh from the machine I have ssh'ed into due to
>>> some permissions issues. I was able to get Putty working reasonably
>>> though.
>>>
>>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't know if I'm going too far, but I just had another idea that
>>>> might involve no hacking. If you have access to a Linux machine, you
>>>> might want to set up google cloud client thereand then ssh to that
>>>> Linux machine and inside the ssh session do another ssh inside google
>>>> cloud. I never worked with Google cloud, but since that's Google, I
>>>> think they must have a Linux version.
>>>> And if you don't have a Linux instance at hand, you can get one in
>>>> amazon EC2 cloud for $10 a year. That's what I do, and amazon's
>>>> website is fully accessible with jaws.
>>>>
>>>> --Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, will give it a shot. Thanks everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Kartik,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking that if you cannot find a proper solution, you might
>>>>>> try some hacking.
>>>>>> What would happen if you don't have putty installed on your computer?
>>>>>> Maybe the google client would ask you which ssh client to use?
>>>>>> If not, then what I would do is to replace putty.exe with my own
>>>>>> program, that just prints out the command line arguments. This way
>>>>>> you would know how the google client invokes putty. Once you know
>>>>>> the arguments, you can translate them into a call to ssh.exe from
>> Cygwin.
>>>>>> You can even write a program that would do the conversion for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm not sure, but that seems like the kind of thing the web
>>>>>>> browser could be configured to do differently.  That is, launch a
>>>>>>> different SSH client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been using Cygwin for the past four years, and it works
>>>>>>>> really well. Unfortunately, I cannot ssh into a Google Cloud VM
>>>>>>>> on Windows through Cygwin. Apparently, it automatically launches
>>>>>>>> it in putty, which is getting hard to work with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Louis Maher <ljmaher at swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Kartik ,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Before I retired two years ago, I would have recommended
>>>>>>>>> SecureCRT  (access Linux through windows) Terminal emulator
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/) instead of putty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JAWS worked very well with SecureCRT.  SecureCRT costs around $70.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Louis Maher
>>>>>>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Putty accessibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, these do not work anymore. The menu has the
>>>>>>>>> option to copy everything to the clickboard, but not paste.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Willem Venter via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it in years, but I know you can paste by
>>>>>>>>>> pressing
>>>>>>>>>> alt+space and navigating to the edit menu, where there is a
>>>>>>>>>> alt+paste
>>>>>>>>>> menu. Also, I'm not sure about this, but double tapping the
>>>>>>>>>> insert key might paste too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone used putty before? It seems like the only way to
>>>>>>>>>>> paste from clickboard is by mouse. Is there a way around it?
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, vim does not read out text in the console for some
>>>>>>>>>>> reason. Are there any workarounds?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> -Kartik Sawhney,
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-(510) 766-3419
>>>>>>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/
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>>>
>>>
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