[NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:

Tue Mar 17 06:51:15 UTC 2020

I know the CentOS system I am using comes up in Gnome graphical mode. I also
understand why I am getting the "no text" message. I am using Orca for
speech and brl. How do I get CentOS to load in brl mode? I would like to use
both the Terminal and desktop modes because the desktop has tools that it is
just quicker to bring up using a graphical method. Also, every time I have
to change something like modes, I need assistance from someone and getting
people to volunteer time from their busy lives isn't always easy. 

Charles E. Black, MS.
charleseblack at att.net
(803)463-0040

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From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Beth Hatch via NFBCS
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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:

Hi Charles,

 I've reviewed the messages in this thread but I missed the Linux
distribution you're running.  It sounds like your Linux is set up to log
into Gnome directly if you're getting the not in text mode message on your
display. Once you're using the graphical interface, that message is telling
you that Brltty isn't using the console mode. If you were in text or console
mode meaning you're logging into Linux with a user name and password using a
text only interface,  you would be reading the screen with Brltty on your
Braille device.

I get the not in text mode  message on my Ubuntu Linux computer when Gnome
comes up when I use my Vario Ultra device but before the Orca screen reader
for Gnome is loaded.  If you set up Orca for Braille, you'll have support
for Gnome in its graphical format, meaning you can read the desktop and run
applications with Braille. If you have set up speech, you can also use
speech along with .
Braille mode only.

If you would prefer to run with Braille only with the graphical interface,
Orca can be run and configured for Braille only with no speech. I believe
Brltty can be set up to run automatically in Gnome without Orca, but since I
use Orca with speech and Braille, I'm not sure how to do this. Perhaps
someone more knowledgeable in Linux than I am knows how to accomplish that
part.

Lastly, if you use Orca and Braille, you can run it in terminal mode using
Gnome terminal or other terminal programs. Type alt-f2 to bring up the run
command, then type gnome-terminal. You can also bring up the terminal
through Gnome's graphical interface through its list of applications by
pressing windows key and a (this key is known as the Super key in Linux) and
this should bring up a list of all of the applications available  from the
Gnome desktop interface.

I need a bit more information to help more with this issue.

Respectfully,

Beth

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:

I did make a mistake, but not on Linux. I will look at the logs. The Braille
device is now saying that it is not in text mode. Gnome has text versions.
Will it only work in terminal mode or will it work with the Gnome program?
Thanks!

Charles E. Black, MS.
charleseblack at att.net
(803)463-0040

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:

Check the status with systemctl status brltty. It will show some logs.
Maybe that will help.
Have you tried restarting brltty or running it directly to see the output?
Maybe you made a typo, but the correct command to enable the service is
"systemctl enable brltty" ("enabled" won't work).

On 3/16/20, Charles E. Black via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have
>
> systemctl start brltty
>
> Then I
>
> systemctl enabled brltty
>
> I believe this will work but doesn't. I will check my braille display 
> type and brltty interface.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Charles E. Black, MS.
> charleseblack at att.net
> (803)463-0040
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Willem Venter via 
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> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:
>
> A correction, brltty must also be running and not just be installed.
> You can check and enable brltty with systemd.
> Googling brltty along with your exact model name will probably also 
> give you definitive info about support on linux, though at a glance 
> they do seem to be supported.
> On 3/16/20, Charles E. Black via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Yes, I have done that. Thanks!
>>
>> Charles E. Black, MS.
>> charleseblack at att.net
>> (803)463-0040
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Willem Venter via 
>> NFBCS
>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:08 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux: Query, HIMS Braille Edge:
>>
>> Charles, do you have the brltty package installed? That is all I 
>> needed, but I use a different display.
>>
>> On 3/15/20, Charles E. Black via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Perhaps if I change the title, read below.
>>>
>>> Charles E. Black, MS.
>>> charleseblack at att.net
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>>> via NFBCS
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>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Query, HIMS Braille Edge:
>>>
>>> Morning:
>>>
>>> Where I am right now with the Braille Edge and Linux support.
>>>
>>> The braille display seems as if it is wanting to connect. But, a 
>>> screen pops up saying:
>>>
>>> "screen not in text mode"
>>>
>>> When I go to terminal mode, the screen still says that. The braille 
>>> program should be able to pull the text from the OS display. How 
>>> might I resolve this? Thanks!
>>>
>>> Charles E. Black, MS.
>>> charleseblack at att.net
>>> (803)463-0040
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Query, HIMS Braille Edge:
>>>
>>> Afternoon:
>>>
>>> On this note, I have switched the braille display to the virtual 
>>> machine and have activated brltty service. The braille display says, 
>>> "no screen". Where am I going wrong? Thanks!
>>>
>>> Charles E. Black, MS.
>>> charleseblack at att.net
>>> (803)463-0040
>>>
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>>> Subject: [NFBCS] Query, HIMS Braille Edge:
>>>
>>> Afternoon:
>>>
>>> I have a question to all concerning the HIMS Braille Edge and using 
>>> it with Linux. Can it be used with Linux and what must I do to 
>>> achieve this? I have varying flavors of Linux to include CentOS, 
>>> Kali, Ubuntu and others so the distro is not the concern. What I 
>>> have a problem with is using the Edge on either of these distros 
>>> going through Virtual Machine. I have done research before writing 
>>> this list but time is a factor. Please contact me via this list 
>>> serve or at the phone
>> number/email below. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Charles E. Black, MS.
>>> charleseblack at att.net
>>> (803)463-0040
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