[NFBCS] IRC Access From Windows

Louis Maher ljmaher03 at outlook.com
Sun Sep 19 11:20:16 UTC 2021 

Correction,

In the note below, I failed to say that I logged into the Zoom meting on my windows machine, then opened the minutes file.  During the meeting, I mostly stayed in the minutes file.  My unmute command is universal and can be done from the minutes file.  Actually I have a mute switch on my earphones.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] IRC Access From Windows

Hello David, 

I fully understand what you are saying.

When I started taking minutes for Zoom meetings, I would alt + tab away from the minutes file to the Zoom session to see who was speaking, hit control + shift + t to get the name, then alt + tab back to the minutes.  I lost most of what was being said doing this. (I have the Brian Hartgen JAWS Zoom scripts.)

Now, I log my iPhone into the meeting, disconnect the audio, set the focus to show who is speaking, link my Orbit 40 to the iPhone, then log in my Windows machine into the minutes file.  

My Orbit 40 has the name of the speaker, and I do not have to alt + tab to see who is speaking.  

I also tried pair-programming.  This can work for debugging, but was totally impractical from a coding point of view.  The sighted person would grab the mouse, and away the cursor would go.  I never knew where we were in the file.

I appreciate your work.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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I am not saying that it can't be done -- but as a blind person, I am finding it increasingly difficult to participate in real-time collaborative processes. We have one less channel of input, and it can be difficult to keep up with everything in real-time.


Better tools will help some, and more experience will help some -- but I am looking forward to my retirement!

Dave


At 03:11 PM 9/16/2021, you wrote:
>Hi Curtis,
>
>I will take minutes for the various meetings of the W3C mathematics 
>working group during the W3C fall convention.  Apparently IRC is their 
>preferred method for doing this so that everyone can see and add to the 
>minutes as they are written.  Also there are facilities in IRC for 
>sending comments during meetings, asking questions, and working with 
>agendas.
>
>I have a lot to learn.
>
>
>Regards
>Louis Maher
>Phone: 713-444-7838
>E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:21 PM
>To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: 'Louis Maher' <ljmaher03 at outlook.com>
>Subject: RE: [NFBCS] IRC Access From Windows
>
>Louis:
>
>I am curious to know why a person would need IRC to take minutes. 
>Normally, if a computer is involved, I have no problem using Notepad or 
>Word. On the iPhone, I enter a program called DRAFTS and write my notes 
>using Braille Screen Input. This latter approach works extremely well 
>if I can bring along a small Bluetooth keyboard.
>
>With kind regards,
>
>Curtis Chong
>
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>Subject: [NFBCS] IRC Access From Windows
>
>Hello,
>
>Earlier, I asked for help accessing the internet relay chat (IRC) 
>system from windows.  Two subscribers from this group have suggested 
>the Windows graphical client MIRC.  While I have not yet got MIRC to 
>work, I am following up with those two subscribers for mor  help.
>
>
>I am trying to learn IRC so that I can take minutes for meetings in 
>mid-October.
>
>Here are my IRC experiences thus far.
>
>---
>
>To access IRC, I have tried a web-based approach
>(https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Firc.w
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>and the Microsoft Windows client MIRC
>(https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mirc.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccd33f070451e412fb7cb08d97b5d9888%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676464183311316%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Xp8X09b4%2FObbgONY1ODSjQ4xUY4c4HH%2FDE1snHxHrx4%3D&reserved=0). 
>I am having basic trouble running IRC commands on both applications.
>
>
>
>In the web-based client, if I enter /whois Louis (where Louis is my
>nickname) I get an understandable response. If I type /help whois, I do 
>not get a response. I can't get any response from the /help command 
>from the web client.
>
>
>
>In MIRC, if I type 'whois Louis, I get an understandable response in a 
>separate window.  If I type /help whois, I get a list of MIRC commands 
>beginning with "w", but "whois" is not one of those commands. The MIRC 
>help is only for MIRC commands and not for IRC commands.
>
>
>
>If I type /invite zakim in either the web-based client or MIRC, I do 
>not get any response. Zakim is part of the IRC minute-taking system.
>
>
>
>I would appreciate any further help you can offer.
>
>
>Regards
>Louis Maher
>Phone: 713-444-7838
>E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
>
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