[NFBCS] Jumping lines in terminal emulation

Mon Aug 8 16:20:23 UTC 2022

Hi Curtis.
I've been assuming that, since I'm just using a new session in my emulator,
the settings are the same, but I'll check next time I log in.  
It does not jump about half the time, and it only jumps when I'm in the edit
screen, so I think it's likely not the cursor, but it's worth a look.
Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Jumping lines in terminal emulation

Tracy:

This is a rather obvious question for me to ask, and I trust you will not
feel criticized by me asking it. On both machines, is your 3270 cursor set
to be a blinking line? In other words, on both machines, is the cursor
setting in the emulator the same?

Just asking to clear up a possible discrepancy.

Best regards,

Curtis Chong

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I looked at my other session, and nothing looked different.  
This jumping is a real problem.  I can't figure out where I am, even with
the speech.  It seems like it's everything that's jumping, not just the
braille display.  If I use the Jaws key to check what character it's on,
that seems to be randomly changing as well.
It doesn't happen on every line, but, once it starts happening, it doesn't
stop for a bit.  Editing a line of code turns from a simple operation into
something that takes a couple minutes trying to figure out where I am.
Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Jumping braille display in terminal emulation

Hi Tracy,

I'm familiar with Hummingbird. That's what my co-workers used. I think it's
also called Host Explorer but can't remember. I never used it because it
displayed all text as highlighted even when I tried modifying the JAWS
mainframe script to ignore dots 7 and 8. The Alva is an old device and I'm
surprised JAWS still support it. Let me know if you have more questions.

Thanks,
Dan

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Jumping braille display in terminal emulation

Hi Dan.  
I'm using Jaws, an Alva 640, and an emulator called Hostex or Hummingbird.
For some reason it has 2 names. 
All the same things work fine on a different mainframe, so, next time I get
in, I'm going to look at my profile settings on the one that's good and
compare to the one that's not so good.  If they're the same, it's back to
the drawing board.  
Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Jumping braille display in terminal emulation

Hi Tracy,

I was a mainframe programmer for 26 years and used JAWS with various Braille
displays. I can confirm what you reported. I have also seen instances where
JAWS ignored indentation. Don't expect any help from Freedom Scientific they
tried claiming that because the scripts were written by someone else Freedom
Scientific wasn't responsible for supporting them. I found this bogus
considering that the scripts are installed with JAWS. Ever since I have had
a bad taste in my mouth about Freedom Scientific and things have gotten
worse when I dealt with Braille hardware repairs.

If you can provide me more information, I will try and help. What version of
the mainframe operating system are you using? Which emulator and version?
What screenreaders and Braille displays are you using? How are you entering
text from the Braille display or a QWERTY keyboard? I hope this helps.

Thanks,
Dan

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Subject: [NFBCS] Jumping braille display in terminal emulation

I'm editing a program within my terminal emulator, and, when I start typing
on a line, my braille display starts flipping quickly back and forth, too
quick to read or route the cursor.  It's quite distracting, and it makes it
hard to check where I am if I want to skip over a bunch of spaces to the
next spot I want on the line. 

I'm using the same emulator I've been using, but I'm in a different
mainframe than the one I know and love.  

It might be a TSO setting, but I'm not sure.  Any ideas?  Any more old
rascals like me, still programming on the mainframe?

Tracy

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