[NFBCS] Linux Screen Readers

[Louis Maher]

Hi Brian,

Concerning cutting and pasting accurately with JAWS.

In JAWS if you hit insert + v, and type cursor into the search field, you can arrow down and find virtual cursor options.  There are two options with the virtual cursor,

Virtual Cursor Options

Select and Copy Full content using onscreen highlight
>From Virtual Cursor
1 of 2
Select and Copy From Virtual Cursor
3 of 12

Use the spacebar to move between options.

Select and Copy Full content using onscreen highlight
>From Virtual Cursor
1 of 2

Will allow you to copy links, headings, and other web attributes.  However, it is difficult to control the beginning and ending of what you want to copy.


Select and Copy From Virtual Cursor
Will give you only the characters you want to copy.  It will not copy the URL's behind links and other web attributes.  However, you will have full control over the first and last characters you want to copy.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Buhrow via NFBCS
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:16 AM
To: Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org>
Cc: Brian Buhrow <buhrow at nfbcal.org>; NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Linux Screen Readers

	hello Doug.  You're really close to what I am looking for, but maybe I don't entirely understand.  For vim, it sounds like the status line at the bottom will give you  the current line number and column number of the file you're in; that's good for writing code and being able to check your indentation and to see if things line up properly when you're formatting tabular output.  And, for things like mutt and lynx the cat, the -show_cursor flag is very helpful.  The thing that you say that's a bit concerning to me is that you say, perhaps I scripted it years ago with Jaws, making me think you're using  an extension you wrote for Jaws that has become part of your everyday kit; something that stil doesn't ship with Jaws for everyone else.  In another part of your message you say that Jaws can give you a pretty good idea of where things are on the screen and you say that older versions of jaws could only give you pixel position , but now it can give you character positions.  That's an improvement, but how precise is it?  Could you use it to check the output of a command that shows tabular data and know what lines up with what?

	Another feature I use everyday, which isn't part of my screen reader, but is vital to my work is the ability to cut and paste bits of text with high levels of accuracy.  In my experience, it is very difficult to select and copy text from the Windows cmd window using Jaws or NVDA.  I can usually get blocks of text, which I have to paste into Notepad for editing before I paste the text into its final destination.  that's a cumbersome extra step I don't have to perform in my native Unix environment.  Since I assume this is a vital part of any person's everyday work, I'm wondering how you accomplish this task using the native cmd window, Jaws and ssh?

	I'm happy to hear that, with newer versions of Jaws, it sounds like the state of terminal access is improving.  

-Brian

_______________________________________________
NFBCS mailing list
NFBCS at nfbnet.org
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnfbcs_nfbnet.org&data=05%7C01%7C%7C883e94d52ad04e837ee408da84517717%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637967782668665959%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5rsmRub2Xl86RdhCr8Sy%2BBUvLCS%2F9%2FXfw2eU3LRUdLo%3D&reserved=0
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnfbcs_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7C%7C883e94d52ad04e837ee408da84517717%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637967782668822952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rbwHQo%2FV2sjH1hancQfXIgonN9WfAAcS7ODYy72OBiQ%3D&reserved=0