[NFBCS] Questions about using MS Teams

charles.vanek at gmail.com charles.vanek at gmail.com
Wed Jul 13 19:50:25 UTC 2022


Agree, JAWS has good features.  The physical control for me, being a heavy
meeting user, is second to none for meetings where I may need to shift focus
from the meeting to Slack or other multi-tasking and back again.  Or to
raise the volume of the meeting without the JAWS speech because someone has
a bad microphone.

  

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at outlook.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:40 PM
To: charles.vanek at gmail.com; 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
<nfbcs at nfbnet.org>; 'Nfb-science' <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
Subject: RE: [NFBCS] Questions about using MS Teams

I'm not questioning the value of a Sound Blaster, but just to make sure
you're using all of the features in JAWS you can, the following page will
tell you about directing JAWS to a particular sound card, which could be
different than the sound card your system is using, and how to send JAWS
audio to one ear and your system audio to another.
https://blog.freedomscientific.com/increase-productivity-with-new-sound-feat
ures-in-jaws-and-fusion-2022/#:~:text=Press%20INSERT%2BSPACEBAR%20to%20activ
ate%20the%20command%20layer.%20Press,pressing%20your%20UP%20ARROW%20or%20DOW
N%20ARROW%20keys.

For me, I use a headset for both JAWS and system audio and use the JAWS
shortcuts to adjust the volume of each separately. To change the JAWS and
system volumes using JAWS, do the following:
1. Hit JAWS-key+space-bar
2. Press 'j' for JAWS or 's' for system
3. Use the arrow keys to adjust your volumes Once I get everything adjusted
right, I can comfortably use my headset and listen to both JAWS and the
audio on the Teams call.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-----Original Message-----
From: charles.vanek at gmail.com <charles.vanek at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:54 PM
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Cc: 'Christopher Chaltain' <chaltain at outlook.com>
Subject: RE: [NFBCS] Questions about using MS Teams

Good day all.  I can not remember if I've posted this tidbit before.
Nonetheless I am in a lot of meetings per day, 4 to 12 is a typical day.
Thus efficiency in meetings is a must for me.  The following won't help with
all 6 of your questions, but will help with the chat messages problem by
allowing you to lower JAWS volume.  Furthermore it'll help your ability to
navigate with JAWS and not be distracted by people when in a pinch
navigating any application during a meeting.  Before I go into all that,
Ctrl+Shift+M for Mic or Ctrl+Shift+O for Video are the two Teams hot keys.
To tell if Mute is on the fast way is to press the M hotkey twice as JAWS
tells you what it's changed to and nobody is likely to notice a quick on/off
of your Mic.  Video, they might notice but quick at the beginning of the
call you'll be fine.

Now for my sound card tip.  One of the best things I've ever purchased to
use with JAWS is the Sound Blaster XG6.  Any additional sound card with
volume control directly on it I think will be a delightful solution for many
as the XG6 is over one hundred bucks.  The benefit of a separate sound card
with volume control is now you can split the JAWS and meeting audio to two
places with individual volume control with physical control of each.

Here's the setup in a nutshell.
1. Sound Blaster plugs into a USB port.
2. Plug a 3.5mm set of speakers into the back left port of the SoundBlaster.
NOTE: Back left if you are looking at the front.  The port closest to the
USB connection that is.
4. Use Insert+J to access the JAWS menu, go to Utilities, Sound Card and
select Sound Blaster XG6 as your output device

You'll now have JAWS on your Sound Blaster and unless Windows shifted the
Default audio to the Sound Blaster you'll have everything else coming from
your laptop or desktop speakers.

Step 5. Optionally if you put a 3.5mm headset into the front left port on
the Sound Blaster the audio physically shifts from the speakers on the Sound
Blaster to the headphones, the Computer doesn't even recognize the change as
it is managed in the Sound Blaster hardware.  If you unplug the headphones
it'll automatically go back to speakers.
6. Optionally, Now in MS Team or Zoom Meetings you'll be able to select the
audio output device.  In Zoom this is really easy, tab to the Mute/Unmute
and then tap 1 more time to the audio options.  Press space bar and you can
arrow down to where you want the meeting Microphone and Speakers.  NOTE:
Microphone and speakers are separate in this list as you arrow down first
you'll select microphone and 2nd you'll select speakers.  Assuming again if
Windows has not changed your default you don't need to do this step in
either Teams or Zoom.

Once you've done all this just 1 time, Zoom and Teams remember the Speakers
and Mic you want.  JAWS remembers the sound card you want for it.  This
makes it nice because if like me you are in a lot of meetings some back to
back you don't want to have to listen to JAWS to find settings every time
you join.  Instead you want to contribute to and focus on your meeting.

So why do I like the XG6?  It's sound quality is 2nd to none, but that's not
the main driver.  It is actually a couple things.  First as mentioned above
I can go from speakers to headset physically.  I can also adjust volume
physically and the size of it is stable.  It's about 4 inches deep, 3 inches
wide and an inch and half high.  The volume knob is large and right on the
front plus the bottom is grippy making it easy to adjust up and down
quickly.  With an ear bud in I also never need to worry about the microphone
picking up JAWS messages like a Slack message from an employee complaining
about the current speaker which would be embarrassing for all involved if
anyone would understand my JAWS.  

There's also one other great thing about the XG6 as a bonus, it has
microphone and line in ports.  So I've plugged in a 3.5mm cardioid
microphone that's better than the laptop's.  

Again, any sound card will work if it has external physical volume control
which most do.  I find this works way better, easier and faster in a meeting
than the JAWS feature to shift audio to one ear and JAWS to the other
because volume focus is much easier and uses the physical controls.

Hope that helps out everyone.  I think it's very important for blind people
like ourselves to be as efficient and effective as possible.  I'm always
seeking out the best gear and tips on saving even a small amount of time or
easing the little annoyances in the day even if only by a fraction.

 
Here's a link to the Sound Blaster.  And No, I get no commission at all from
amazon or anywhere for this suggestion.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon
.com%2FCREATIVE-173295-Sound-BlasterX-Grey%2Fdp%2FB07NLRC3PN&data=05%7C0
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All the best,
Charles Vanek
Sr. Director | Software Engineering, Global Distribution


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NFBCS
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Cc: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Questions about using MS Teams

Here are just a few tips.

After you hit control+4 to go to the calendar, you should be placed on the
current event. You can use the tab key to jump from event to event just like
you can in the Outlook calendar. I have a join meeting button after each
event that I can hit enter on. Once I hit enter on the join meeting button,
I get a dialog where I can select whether my video and mike are on or not. I
usually just back tab once and press enter to take the defaults.

Depending on how many people are in the meeting your mike will be muted. To
toggle the mute, I usually just hit control+shift+mute. Alternatively I can
tab around to the action bar and arrow over to the mute button to find out
the mute status and toggle it between on and off. This always works for me,
as long as the meeting is in focus.

To mute the chat, you might try closing the conversation panel. This will be
in your action bar, which you can get to if you hit the tab key enough
times.

You might also want to try checking out the settings to change things a bit
for you, but I'll warn you that the number of settings can be kind of
daunting, like with most Microsoft products.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of John via NFBCS
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 5:13 PM
To: Nfb-science <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>; nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: John <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] Questions about using MS Teams

Hello, Many companies and organizations are using Microsoft Teams for
meetings.

I use Microsoft Teams on a Windows PC at work.

Microsoft and others offer YouTube tutorials.  On google I used keywords
"microsoft teams accessibility blind tutorials YouTube shortcuts" and found
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If you have suggestions on how to perform the following 6 actions, please
email NFB-Science at nfbnet.org or email me personallyjohnmillerphd at hotmail.com

Built into Teams is the shortcut Ctrl-4 to go to the calendar. I do not have
any questions about how to go to calendar, I just want to share how useful
this shortcut is. It is important to have the discussion among blind users
about effective methods to join a Teams meetings with proper settings. To go
to calendar, press Ctrl-4, then you can down arrow to move time by the half
hour.  You can press enter on an event and press tab to navigate to the join
meeting button, then press enter on the join meeting button.  You can check
and uncheck dialog box options such as video off, mic on, and select
connect. You will now be placed in a meeting. You can give the command
Alt-F4 to leave a meeting, there are other ways to leave a meeting as well.
When Microsoft Teams went down, the IT department suggested a remedy of
logging out and logging back into Teams. I got sighted assistance to do
these actions but have not succeeded in doing them without sighted
assistance.
This is a piece of advice about changing windows credentials in Teams.
I have noticed that when I change my Windows credentials, Teams is no longer
working for me. IT steps in and does something to fix the situation. I have
learned to change my Windows credentials early in the business day and to
setup a test meeting with a colleague after my credentials have been changed
to make sure that Teams will connect me to a meeting properly.
When I join a meeting using JAWS for Windows, I feel there are lots of steps
to verify that video is off, and microphone is on.  It seems to me that,
depending on who created the meeting, sometimes mic is on by default and
sometimes it is off. I have encountered the experience that if the mic is
off before I connect, that I often cannot toggle the mic on during the
meeting. Instead, I need to leave the meeting, check the mic on checkbox and
the enter the meeting.  This allows my colleagues to hear my audio just
fine.
My sighted colleagues can see the visual indicator for background noise for
a particular participant.  This allows them to suggest that a participant
unmute themselves when they are speaking, and the group does not hear their
audio. I would like to know the blindness technique for observing this
indicator.
In some meetings, there is a high level of traffic in chat. The screen
reader notifications from chat can interrupt the speech of participants.
There is an ellipsis symbol under conversation with a choice for mute
conversation.  Without sighted assistance, I have not learned how to access
this feature. I would like to learn how to do so.  Multiple blind people
have asked how to do this solution.  It is quite disruptive when the mute
feature is not applied.
Very Best,

John Miller

 

 
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