[Nfbf-l] State School

Thu Apr 7 02:40:57 UTC 2011

Thank you Mark. And you grew up in the dorm situation. I was only there one 
year.

Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School

> Amen, Sherri, I would agree with you, both about you and myself.  And I 
> too have seen people who went to public school become isolated, and 
> unaware. One can't stereotype, I mean obviously you have some students in 
> public school who do very well and some in schools for the blind who do 
> not.  But compared to a lot of blind kids in public schools today, with 
> regard to things like mobility and Braille, I had it quite good.  Plus, 
> remember that in public school, you are immersed in a sighted culture that 
> has no understanding of blindness and will often treat you either as 
> someone to be pitied, or as someone to be shunned or bullied.  In the 
> schools for the blind, (and obviously that is not always the case,) there 
> is a better chance that one will be taught that it is respectable to be 
> blind, that yes, you can compete on terms of equality with the sighted, 
> etc.  So there you have it, I think.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Welcome to my planet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>
>
>>I feel I had an excellent education at the Utah School For the Blind. I 
>>attended until I was in 10th grade. I consider myself quite well-educated 
>>and socially mature and able to compete with any other sighted people. I 
>>had the advantage of being able to stay home and travel back and forth 
>>each day to school, which allowed me to grow up in my neighborhood. I also 
>>had the advantage of learning excellent blindness skills, particularly 
>>Braille, math, etc., which gave me a nearly 4.0 grade point average upon 
>>attending public high school. I see so many mainstreamed people today who 
>>were totally isolated in their public school experience, made no friends, 
>>did not develop good blindness skills, don't read braille well or at all. 
>>I do not at all consider myself socially immature or incapable because I 
>>went to a school for the blind.
>>
>> Sherri
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>
>>
>>> Joann, I so agree with you on this topic! I, too, have seen many blind
>>> individuals that act so childlike compared to others and have wondered 
>>> why.
>>> Why some are always figitting, and others are not. I was told it was due 
>>> to
>>> their parents allowing them to do what they wished without letting them
>>> know it is not polite to rock or figit all the time in their seets,etc. 
>>> I
>>> was also told it was because they were placed in their playpens for 
>>> hours to
>>> keep them safe and they would get extremely bored so they developed 
>>> habits
>>> that were very distracting to others in a room and such. These behaviors 
>>> are
>>> what the majority of our population (sighted) see and assume we are not
>>> prepared to be on an even  keel with them and until we try and feel
>>> comfortable about talking about these foibles with some of usletting 
>>> them
>>> know this behavior is not acceptable and quite rude as well, we will 
>>> have
>>> diminished and negative attention brought our way. Just one man's 
>>> opinion is
>>> all! Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Joanne" <jdking09 at earthlink.net>
>>> To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:21 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>>
>>>
>>> I know first hand what a shambles the Daytona School became after it was
>>> influenced by NFB's  theory of teaching independents to the blind.   If 
>>> I
>>> were
>>> in charge  I would first have every student believe in their dignity. 
>>> Then
>>> I
>>> would teach them to believe  that they can achieve anything if they 
>>> really
>>> want
>>> to.  and the other important thing is to join society without thinking 
>>> that
>>> they
>>> need  special treatment.  You can't burn the candle at both ends.  And 
>>> that
>>> is
>>> what they had done at the center.  That's why the school is not on 
>>> track.
>>> The people that I have known before NFB's influence had a better chance 
>>> of
>>> learning all this.  After that forget it.
>>> I personally grew up in public and private schools and learned my own
>>> independents because I wanted to.  I agree that one can always pick out 
>>> a
>>> blind
>>> student who was educated at a school for the blind including one like
>>> Daytona.
>>> They act like a child..
>>> So whether it is NFB or ACB or anything else.  A blind person can be so
>>> called
>>> Normal if treated like they are normal.
>>> We are a very small percentage of society.  Therefore, it is us, who 
>>> needs
>>> to
>>> comply with the majority.
>>> Please pass this on to the NFB and the ACB and any other Organizations 
>>> who
>>> feel
>>> that special privileges is the only way to go.  I guess what I am trying 
>>> to
>>> say
>>> is stop degrading us.
>>>
>>>
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