[Nfbf-l] State School

Mark Tardif markspark at bellsouth.net
Thu Apr 7 00:16:00 UTC 2011


Amen, Sherri, I would agree with you, both about you and myself.  And I too 
have seen people who went to public school become isolated, and unaware. 
One can't stereotype, I mean obviously you have some students in public 
school who do very well and some in schools for the blind who do not.  But 
compared to a lot of blind kids in public schools today, with regard to 
things like mobility and Braille, I had it quite good.  Plus, remember that 
in public school, you are immersed in a sighted culture that has no 
understanding of blindness and will often treat you either as someone to be 
pitied, or as someone to be shunned or bullied.  In the schools for the 
blind, (and obviously that is not always the case,) there is a better chance 
that one will be taught that it is respectable to be blind, that yes, you 
can compete on terms of equality with the sighted, etc.  So there you have 
it, I think.

Mark Tardif
Welcome to my planet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School


>I feel I had an excellent education at the Utah School For the Blind. I 
>attended until I was in 10th grade. I consider myself quite well-educated 
>and socially mature and able to compete with any other sighted people. I 
>had the advantage of being able to stay home and travel back and forth each 
>day to school, which allowed me to grow up in my neighborhood. I also had 
>the advantage of learning excellent blindness skills, particularly Braille, 
>math, etc., which gave me a nearly 4.0 grade point average upon attending 
>public high school. I see so many mainstreamed people today who were 
>totally isolated in their public school experience, made no friends, did 
>not develop good blindness skills, don't read braille well or at all. I do 
>not at all consider myself socially immature or incapable because I went to 
>a school for the blind.
>
> Sherri
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] State School
>
>
>> Joann, I so agree with you on this topic! I, too, have seen many blind
>> individuals that act so childlike compared to others and have wondered 
>> why.
>> Why some are always figitting, and others are not. I was told it was due 
>> to
>> their parents allowing them to do what they wished without letting them
>> know it is not polite to rock or figit all the time in their seets,etc. I
>> was also told it was because they were placed in their playpens for hours 
>> to
>> keep them safe and they would get extremely bored so they developed 
>> habits
>> that were very distracting to others in a room and such. These behaviors 
>> are
>> what the majority of our population (sighted) see and assume we are not
>> prepared to be on an even  keel with them and until we try and feel
>> comfortable about talking about these foibles with some of usletting them
>> know this behavior is not acceptable and quite rude as well, we will have
>> diminished and negative attention brought our way. Just one man's opinion 
>> is
>> all! Kirk
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joanne" <jdking09 at earthlink.net>
>> To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:21 PM
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] State School
>>
>>
>> I know first hand what a shambles the Daytona School became after it was
>> influenced by NFB's  theory of teaching independents to the blind.   If I
>> were
>> in charge  I would first have every student believe in their dignity. 
>> Then
>> I
>> would teach them to believe  that they can achieve anything if they 
>> really
>> want
>> to.  and the other important thing is to join society without thinking 
>> that
>> they
>> need  special treatment.  You can't burn the candle at both ends.  And 
>> that
>> is
>> what they had done at the center.  That's why the school is not on track.
>> The people that I have known before NFB's influence had a better chance 
>> of
>> learning all this.  After that forget it.
>> I personally grew up in public and private schools and learned my own
>> independents because I wanted to.  I agree that one can always pick out a
>> blind
>> student who was educated at a school for the blind including one like
>> Daytona.
>> They act like a child..
>> So whether it is NFB or ACB or anything else.  A blind person can be so
>> called
>> Normal if treated like they are normal.
>> We are a very small percentage of society.  Therefore, it is us, who 
>> needs
>> to
>> comply with the majority.
>> Please pass this on to the NFB and the ACB and any other Organizations 
>> who
>> feel
>> that special privileges is the only way to go.  I guess what I am trying 
>> to
>> say
>> is stop degrading us.
>>
>>
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