[Nfbf-l] Bureaucracy to the Max

Wed Jun 27 23:07:23 UTC 2012

I let mine expire this year, as well. When I went in, I took all my tax info, SS# and birth certificate. I had no issue but I did look on line to see what would be needed before I went in. 

Holly

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On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:51 PM, valkemadenise at aol.com wrote:

> I agree this is sad but I believe the sighted people wanting a driver's license or Florida identification card have to provide the same documentation that was asked. Also, once beyond a certain age, the identification card doesn't expire. 
> 
> I called to set an appointment and asked what to bring including payment method prior to going. This helped with wait time in Miami-Dade anyway.
> 
> We could see about having notification mailed out 2 months ahead if this is done for driver's license. Is this done for all Florids?
> 
> Denise
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taraprakash at gmail.com
> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 11:10 am
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Bureaucracy to the Max
> 
> 
> 
> It's really sad. Who would compensate if you did or if you had to take leave 
> from work for this?
> We have two lessons to learn from this experience:
> 
> 1. Do not let your state id expire.
> 
> 2. Be more sympathetic towards people without documents. Not having them 
> should not automatically make you illegal.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patricia A. Lipovsky" <plipovsky at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "NFBF List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Bureaucracy to the Max
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wanted to write and share my wonderful experience I had recently with 
>> the Department of Motor Vehicles.  Talk about bureaucracy, this is 
>> bureaucracy to the Max as far as I'm concerned.  It's a tad long, and I 
>> apologize for that, but I didn't want to leave out too many details so you 
>> could get the complete picture of exactly what happened.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It all started when my state ID expired.  Warning:   If you do anything at 
>> all, do not let your ID expire..  It will be one of the biggest mistake 
>> you make!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> First trip to the DMV
>> 
>> I was told by a friend, even though my ID expired, just take it to the 
>> DMV, and they will just issue me a new one.     Wrong!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since there is a two hour turn around time with my Parra transit, a very 
>> kind lady from my church offered to take me to the DMV so I wouldn't have 
>> to wait so long for my return trip.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I took my expired ID, as my friend suggested, which of course had my 
>> picture on it, and after standing in line for about 30 minutes, was told 
>> it could not be accepted because it was expired.  I then offered another 
>> ID with a picture of my service animal and myself on it, but they still 
>> wouldn't budge.  They told me I needed to come back with two utility 
>> bills, to show proof of address, a social security card or Birth 
>> certificate, and I would be good to go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Second Trip to the DMV
>> 
>> About two or three  weeks later, my very kind church lady and I go back to 
>> the DMV, water and electric bills in hand, along with my two photo ID's, 
>> my birth certificate, and got back in line to wait my turn.  I get up to 
>> the reception desk with all my info, and after looking at it, was asked 
>> for my social security card.  I explained I misplaced it, and the last 
>> time I was there, was told my birth certificate along with the other 
>> pieces of information I had would suffice.  She apologizes, and states my 
>> social security card is required.  I could go to the social security 
>> office and obtain a letter which they would accept, substantiating that I 
>> did have a social security card.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Feeling very frustrated, since I truly thought this issue was going to be 
>> resolved at this time, and had other things to do, I told my very kind 
>> church lady friend that we would deal with this another day.  Once again, 
>> she graciously offered to take me to the Social Security office one day 
>> the next week, and then back to the DMV, which was exactly what we did.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Third Trip to the DNV
>> 
>> We go back to the DNV a week later, social security letter in hand, two 
>> utility bills, two picture ID's, and my birth certificate.  I anxiously 
>> awaited my turn, and after waiting approximately 30 to 45 minutes, got up 
>> to the desk and handed the person my info.  After looking through it, she 
>> states my name on my birth certificate is not the same as on the other 
>> pieces of information. My response was, "Yes, I know, I got married." Can 
>> you guess what her next statement is? You got it.  She now needs a 
>> certified copy of my marriage certificate.
>> 
>> Needless to say, at this point, I wanted to scream, but thanks to our Lord 
>> and Savior, managed to compose myself.   I then proceeded to tell her that 
>> this was my third trip to the DMV, and pointed out that she did have two 
>> picture ID's right there in her hot little hand, (well I did leave the 
>> words hot little hand part out), with me standing right in front of her, 
>> verifying those pictures, plus two utility bills which verified home 
>> address and name, as well as my social security letter.  Noticing how 
>> frustrated I was, she decided to check with her boss, and upon return, 
>> proceeded to apologize for my inconvenience, but stated I would still have 
>> to come back with the marriage certificate.
>> 
>> Frustrated, disappointed, and discouraged, out the door we went for the 
>> third time, knowing I had yet another obstacle to overcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> After numerous calls to New Jersey, I finally got to the correct office, 
>> where I was told they would be happy to send me a copy of my marriage 
>> certificate, provided I furnished them with a current driver's license 
>> /ID.  Hmmm, another obstacle!  Long story short, I ended up contacting my 
>> x, who found it, and sent it to me.  Elated, I almost said "I love you", 
>> but caught myself in the nick of time, as that wouldn't have been a very 
>> good idea.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fourth Trip to the DMV
>> 
>> So now my church lady friend and I are back at the DMV, with two photo 
>> ID's, two utility bills, my social security letter, my birth certificate, 
>> and my marriage certificate.  I once again, get up to the desk, feeling 
>> very confident this would be the day I get my new ID, but there was yet 
>> another glitch.  The marriage certificate that my x thought was the 
>> original, was a copy, and I was told she could not accept a copy.  Now, I 
>> can feel the blood rush to my head, and am trying very hard to maintain my 
>> composure.  She obviously took note of my expression, knowing I had been 
>> there before, and decided to ask her boss if she could accept it.  Luckily 
>> for my sake they did, and I was finally able to go on my merry way with my 
>> new ID.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now, let me say because of what happened with 911, and the identity theft 
>> problem, I do understand the security issue, and totally agree with it one 
>> hundred percent, but what happened in my case though, I feel was overkill. 
>> If I didn't have two photo ID's, which obviously reiterated who I was, I 
>> could understand connecting all the dots, but truly feel that wasn't 
>> necessary here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also, people who drive get notified 2 months in advance that their license 
>> will be expiring.
>> 
>> People with state ID's who do not drive, do not ever get notified.  What's 
>> up with that???
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Are people who don't drive less important? Do they not deserve equal 
>> treatment?  Is this discrimination?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You tell me!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And remember....
>> If you lack the courage to  start, you have already finished.
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