[nfbmi-talk] a useful excerpt from pa260

[joe harcz Comcast]

Yup, it has always been so too. Fred, they don't and never have done the 
minimum.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] a useful excerpt from pa260


> Hi,
>
> The most important point, to me, is that it is not, as stated in the
> training, going above the minimum to do those things you mention.  It is 
> the
> law, end of discussion.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
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> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:29 PM
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>
> Yes, Fred and this makes it clear that all the committees including CIC,
> Service and Design, Diversity, etc., etc., must comply with the OMA and
> Freedom of Information Act. That does by the way include the requirement 
> to
> keep and disseminate minutes and, of course it requires notice.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
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>
>> Hi to Both joe's,
>>
>> I get it now, Joe Sontag.  Yesterday you were comment to me about P.A.
>> 260.
>> I did not understand you at the time.  Now I see where it says all
>> committees.  That seems very clear, to me, never mind the OMA or FOIA.
>> Thanks for the reminder.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
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>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:08 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] a useful excerpt from pa260
>>
>> Great stuff Joe! Of course I was at the the OMA and FOIA training on
>> Thursday. And of course, Cannon totally put his spin on what was 
>> presented
>> there. He hides information from staff, the board, and even the public
>> illegally. Always has too by the way.
>>
>> Problem is that he acts arbitrarily and capriciously in groos violations
>> of
>> these laws and then expects the taxpayer to bail his sorry butt out with
>> legal assistence from the taxpayer's coffers (i.e. the Michigan Attorney
>> General's office).
>>
>> I did discuss some things with Mr. Quasarano though after the meeting and
>> while he couldn't comment he know I'm right.
>>
>> By the way he teaches "Media Law" at MSU. And I did discuss my background
>> in
>>
>> that arena while both a professional journalist and that I did indeed
>> study
>> media law at Notre Dame college in Manchester New Hampshire.
>>
>> Cannon just makes his stuff up as he goes along.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:54 AM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] a useful excerpt from pa260
>>
>>
>>>I thought I'd pass this along to help everyone get on the same page, so 
>>>to
>>> speak.  Act 267 is the Open Meetings Act, Act 442 is, you guessed it, 
>>> the
>>> Freedom of Information Act or FOIA.  It all seems very clear to me, even
>>> as the Board and staff are only now being educated on these things.
>>>
>>> 393.365 Conducting business at public meeting; notice; availability of
>>> writings to
>>> public
>>> .
>>> Sec. 15.(1) The business which the commission or any committee appointed
>>> under this
>>> act may perform shall be conducted at a public meeting of the commission
>>> or
>>> committee
>>> held in compliance with Act No. 267 of the Public Acts of 1976, being
>>> sections 15.261
>>> to 15,275 of the Michigan Compiled Laws. Public notice of the time, 
>>> date,
>>> and place
>>> of the meeting shall be given in the manner required by Act No. 267 of
>>> the
>>> Public
>>> Acts of 1976.
>>> (2) A writing prepared, owned, used, in the possession of, or retained 
>>> by
>>> the commission
>>> in the performance of an official function shall be made available to 
>>> the
>>> public
>>> in compliance with Act No. 442 of the Public Acts of 1976, being 
>>> sections
>>> 15.231
>>> to 15.246 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
>>>
>>>
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