[nfbmi-talk] mcb??

Fri Oct 29 04:41:33 UTC 2010

Hi Tonya,

I can say with certainty that neither I nor the NFB of Michigan will stop
until there is justice and fairness and that any blind person who wants a
job can go to the Commission and have confidence that all that is possible
will be done to help them get a job and I mean a good paying job, not a
sub-minimum make-work job.  We have to stick up for each other if we are
going to ever fix this mess.

Warmest Regards,

Fred

-----Original Message-----
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Well I thank you very much Fred. That actually does make a lot of sense.
Well see, I understand, but that's why I said a lot of these things need to
be changed, and like I said if many people call Pat Buchanan and leave a
message on his machine like I did; then he will know that more and more
people they are not liking what's happening there, and they will not sit on
their hands and say oh well, you know? Because  I realize that things are
hard to change, but you know what? That doesn't mean that you can quit just
because things are hard. You know? Yeah sure things are hard and difficult,
but that doesn't mean that you can sit on your hands and say, "Oh things are
so hard", you know, and be a quitter. I wasn't raised a quitter. I was
raised to fight for my rights, and dog gonnit I'm going to do it. I mean fi
you want to run with your tail between your legs, that's fine, but not me.
I'm not going too. Granted I'm not saying you in general, I'm just saying
anybody. If they want to do that, well then hey more power to them. They're
not going to get anywhere in life. That's all I'm saying. I mean do you want
someone to speak up, or do you just want me to sit back and say, "Oh, oh,
oh, well, yep, yep, yep, you're right. you're right. That's the way things
are. I'm going to just sit back and be dumb." I mean come on now, think
about it Fred. Now can we really afford to be doing. 

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> Original Message:
> ---------------------------------
> 
> From: Fred Wurtzel <f.wurtzel at att.net> 
> Sent: October 28, 2010 9:36:03 PM
> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> 
> Hello Tonya,
> 
> There is a saying (like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic) that
is
> said when making incremental changes will not prevent the inevitable or
> correct the incorrect path of the vessel, a metaphor for organization.  In
> the case of MCB the course is set in the wrong direction, so reorganizing
or
> somehow restructuring the reporting hierarchy will not make any difference
> if the fundamental philosophical compass is not corrected.  We will
continue
> to have clients told there is no money when there are millions of dollars
of
> unspent money in the accounts.  College students will continue to be told
> they must take out loans, even though the Rehab Act does not require that
> they do.  Students will be stuck with $11,000 debts with no offer to repay
> them, even though the Commission gave incorrect information.  We will
> continue to work to reduce services to college students when a college
> education is the best predictor of employability.  We will continue to
> reduce legally mandated services to BEP operators who wish to move even
> though they are often making less than the minimum wage and cannot afford
to
> move their household across the state, even if for a better job.  We will
> continue to have the MCB director usurping power from the Commission Board
> when, in fact, the board is his boss.  We will continue to have
information
> withheld even though the law clearly requires the sharing of public
> documents.  Blind children will continue to be denied the opportunity to
> learn Braille, even though the Commission law clearly states the MCB
> Director shall coordinate all services to blind children in Michigan.
> Highly qualified and hardworking blind people will be fired from the
> Commission for being NFB members.  Leaders in the Business Enterprise
> Program will continue to be removed from the program because they are
> leaders and are members of the NFB.     
> 
> This is what I mean when I say that restructuring the MCB is like
> rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.  What is needed is for the
> Commission Board to take its rightful roll as the policy setting body for
> MCB, to focus on a philosophy that leads to doing whatever is necessary to
> help blind people get good jobs and gain first-class citizenship, free
from
> discrimination and low expectation.  I hope this helps.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Tonya Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:56 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> 
> Hey Fred this is Tonya. What the holy heck does the Titanic have to do
with
> the commission? The Titanic is a ship Fred, I saw the movie. What does, I
> don't get it. What does the changing of the chairs have to do, I don't get
> it. What does the changing of the chairs on the Titanic have to do with
> anything. I don't get it. Perhaps why don't you come back and explain it
to
> me please. Because well, I don't mean to sound really rude, but that
sounded
> kind of really dumb. 
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> > Original Message:
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > From: Fred Wurtzel <f.wurtzel at att.net> 
> > Sent: October 28, 2010 8:14:57 PM
> > To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Unless there are major philosophic changes, rearranging the chairs on
the
> > Titanic will not help.
> > 
> > Warmest Regards,
> > 
> > Fred
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of gkitchen
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:40 PM
> > To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not  sure if there was a misunderstanding.  I think some people
have 
> > been dissatisfied with their services from the commission, certainly in
> not 
> > every circumstance but with certain services.
> > 
> > Georgia
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jacalyn Paulding" <jacalynpaulding at gmail.com>
> > To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm just wondering if there is a little misunderstanding here.  They
are
> 
> > > in
> > > fact restructuring the physical premises of the Michigan Comission 
> > > Training
> > > Center in kalamazoo.  All students are going home November 19th and
the
> > > center is relocating while there is a massive remodeling.
> > >
> > > Do you think maybe somebody misunderstood mcbtc to be mcb?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, gkitchen <ghkitchen at comcast.net>
wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Fred,
> > >>
> > >> I think the person who mentioned it was unsatisified with their
> services
> > >> and well I believe they have reason.
> > >>
> > >> Georgia
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> > >> To: "'Marcus Simmons'" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan
> > >> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:44 PM
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, restructuring could mean a lot of things, so that is why I
really
> > >>> wonder what is ment by this comment.  It could mean anything from
> merger
> > >>> with MRS, to moving to the Department of Ed or a simple reassignment
> of
> > >>> roles within the agency.  Very ambiguous.
> > >>>
> > >>> Warmest Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Fred
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> > >>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Marcus Simmons
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:20 PM
> > >>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>>
> > >>> If 30% of the present staff retire, that would constitute a 
> > >>> restructuring,
> > >>> right?
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "gkitchen"
<ghkitchen at comcast.net>
> > >>> To: "NFB of Michigan List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:26 AM
> > >>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Someone I talked to briefly told me they were going to restructure
> the
> > >>>> MCB. Has anyone have any comments about this?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Georgia
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