[nfbmi-talk] Minutes, January 6, 2011, 8:30 P.M.

Tonya Smith tonyasmith75 at live.com
Tue Jan 11 11:58:52 CST 2011


Hi, Elizabeth. This is Tanya. I think that between you and Joe, that that will probably be best. Because. Sounds to me Mike that there was a little bit of misunderstanding. And not enough thinking of what he or she wanted to say you know. And that hey Matt thinking things through so hey I'm sorry that you had to go through all of that. And I'm hoping it doesn't happen again. Oh, this I tell you

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> Original Message:
> ---------------------------------
> 
> From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> 
> Sent: January 11, 2011 12:15:24 PM
> To: NFB Michigan <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Minutes, January 6, 2011, 8:30 P.M.
> 
> 
> Joe,
>  
> I am choosing to honor your request to end the discussion on this matter. In doing so, I hope that you can extend this same respect towards me.
>  
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
> 
>  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> fff> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:14 AM
> > To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Minutes, January 6, 2011, 8:30 P.M.
> > 
> > Elizabeth and Donna,
> > 
> > Once again you both know precisely how the motion was phrased and indeed 
> > passed twice over again. You, Elizabeth have the room with Mary Wertzel paid
> > 
> > for by the members of the NFB MI and if others from NFB MI who are women are
> > 
> > to join with you then the room payments will continue. If there are other 
> > members of NFB, women who wish to share the room but who are not members of 
> > NFB MI then they must share, pro rata the room expense.
> > 
> > If anyone wishes to challenge my recollection of the motions or events then 
> > I should refer them to the recordings of this event. However, I suggest, 
> > with all patience expired at this late hour that you, Elizabeth and others 
> > continue to make mountains out of moe hilss at exhaustive expense and at 
> > diliatory purpose for those in NFB MI who wish to actually get about to 
> > business.
> > 
> > Furthermore, while I have not openly commented upon this before, and that is
> > 
> > only in the interest of unity, which was rather admittedly stupid on my 
> > behalf, I must state that if you wish Elizabeth for the record to be trully 
> > reflective of statements made that you innacurately stated that the reason 
> > you wished to have the room to yourself and for whomever you stated from 
> > another state was because as again you stated publicly last year the youth 
> > didn't make visits to our reps. This clearly was not true and it denigrated 
> > the rokle of Melinda and our youth group.
> > 
> > Now, if you, Elizabeth or others have direct evidence to the contrary I 
> > would hope that you would support those allegations with facts and for the 
> > record.
> > 
> > If I am mistating events or misinterpreting them I will submit to each and 
> > every member of the board on these accounnts and as to the taped, or 
> > recorded record.
> > 
> > If that is done Elizabeth I will apologize to you with a public microphone 
> > from the highest public building of your chosing as well as of course, on 
> > this list and others for that matter.
> > 
> > Shoot if innacurate in the least detail I'm willing to have a llie detector 
> > test, a public flogging, and a Partridge in a Pear tree to satisfy you.
> > 
> > Now, as a member all I expect from you, and others is to simply take "Yes" 
> > for an answer and not to be pervisely devisive with no purpose whatsoever 
> > except, perhaps to extend some sort of personal agenda or grudge or another 
> > against the commonweal and the common interest and the common defense of 
> > commonly held rights and responsabilities.
> > 
> > Contrary to common slander I do not welcome debate for the simple sake of 
> > it. Nor do I relish confrontation between peers for the sake of it. Nor do I
> > 
> > wish any ill will upon you or your faction such as it is. But, neither do I 
> > care one wit for trifles and bovine scatology and/or deflection. diffusion, 
> > delusion, or other silly little and petty drama games.
> > 
> > There is serious business goingon here which impacts the lives of all blind 
> > folks in this state and, indeed in America and even around the globe.
> > 
> > Certainly my way is not the "only way" and I do not presume to be that all 
> > knowing or all powerful for I am not, after all "God".
> > 
> > I say these things to pre-empt ad hominum attacks and to point to, once 
> > again the public record which is and has been accurately reflected by all 
> > but you Elizabeth on this issue.
> > 
> > Again, those things are in the recordings if you don't listen or don't 
> > trust those who fund you in this endeavor.
> > 
> > Finally I'll say simply, "Stop playing games."
> > 
> > And, that goes to you too Donna.
> > 
> > The times are dire for those who are blind in America and Michigan and none 
> > of us can afford bovine scatology... (If you don't know what tthat means 
> > than look it up!)
> > 
> > Joe
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