[nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
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Mon Jun 13 23:27:07 UTC 2011
Pat cannon sure did great work as State ADA coordinator for PWD in the
voting process...
For the record...
Note of April 8, 2010.
Following is a series of correspondences and ccs to relevant and interested
parties regarding ADA compliance with the Michigan Secretary of State and
its Bureau of Elections. Now, subsequently the SOS did get the Automark
system in place which afforded people who are blind and others with other
disabilities accessible access to the ballot itself (no thanks to ADA
Coordinator Cannon here). When the announcement of the Automark was made
before people with disabilities in the State Library and the State "Talking
Book" program therein (in Lansing Michigan) I noted that there were no
raised character and Braille signs on permanent rooms including that very
room except for restrooms. I noted that to the Bill Milzarski referred to
here whose very office in the Victor Office Building until he recently left
his position with the Commission for Disability Concerns (a post once
headed by Patrick Cannon by the way) still to this day has inaccessible
signage.
Now also note the barrier removal requirements of 504, the ADA and HAVA on
polling places. To this date there are hundreds of polling places in this
state that are inaccessible for people with disabilities in whole or part.
The Secretary of State has all kinds of polling place accessibility surveys
in her possession and funding for barrier removal. In Flint Michigan alone I
don't think one identified barrier has been removed and I along with many
members of The Disability Network conducted polling place accessability
surveys.
Now, subsequent to this series and apparently independent of any efforts by
Pat Cannon the Secretary of State did put on its web site its ADA
Coordinator, Notice of Rights and a Grievance Procedure (about fourteen
years or more after the law required these things to be done). And low and
behold Patrick Cannon is right in there as the person to file a grievance
with. But, hmmm.Here as on other occasions he effectively diverts the issue
at hand and says, "Not my job."
Anytime that any person with a disability encounters discrimination or a
physical access barrier or communications barrier with a state entity we can
all thank Mr. ADA Coordinator Patrick Cannon who cannot even make his own
programs with MCB fully accessible to people who are blind.
Wow the lack of compliance over a protracted period of time in this state is
truly staggering. It is incredible.
Joe Harcz
(Attached e-mail correspondences):
(From me: Joe HarczJ
Dear Pat,
You are the ADA coordinator for the state. Each state agency is required to
have an ADA grievance procedure in place. In fact that was required as of
January
26, 1992.
Thus I am requesting a copy of that grievance procedure please.
I am also requesting the Secretary of State's ADA transition plan and self
evaluation.
Of course I'm requesting these documents in accessible format pursuant to
Title II, subpart e, (effective communications). These documents can be
simply
sent as either plain text enclosures or Word attachments to my e-mail
address.
I would also like to request at this time just what accessible voting
devices have been certified for use here in Michigan as the core to
discrimination
lies in the fact that only inaccessible voting systems have been certified.
This lead to the very major act of mass discrimination under both the ADA
and
504 in which twenty five counties with federal monies installed only
inaccessible systems. This is a procedural act of discrimination which could
have
been remedied with some basic understanding by the Secretary of State in her
obligations not to establish discriminatory practices. In fact it is in the
self evaluation that such practices were to have been examined and
eliminated.
Thank you for the update.
Best,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:
Cannon, Patrick D (DLEG)
To:
Joe Harcz
;
Cannon, Patrick D (DLEG)
Cc:
Shell, Amy
;
Milzarski, William
;
TMASSEA at mpas.org
;
mcbvi at sbcglobal.net
;
Wyeth, Duncan
;
casey354 at comcast.net
;
charis533 at COMCAST.NET
;
KDUBUC at mpas.org
;
Dist048 at house.mi.gov
;
AMAES at mpas.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: formal ada complaint and documentation of discrimination
Hello Joe,
Your recent note updating me on ADA compliance issues with regard to
elections has been received and I wanted to share some information with you
which I
trust you will find encouraging. First though I want to commend you again
for your tenacious and persevering advocacy on behalf of blind voters in
Michigan
and throughout the country.
You will be pleased to know that efforts are continuing within the Secretary
of State's office to promote accessibility of polling places throughout the
state, including the provision of voting machines which will enable voters
with vision impairments to cast their ballots privately and independently.
In numerous meetings and discussions with the Elections Bureau of the
Secretary of State, Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service, and the
Michigan Commission
on Disability Concerns, it is evident that progress is being made. The
Secretary of State is currently involved in making technical assistance
available
to communities in the state for the specific purpose of access of polling
places and, in many instances, funds will be available to municipalities to
assist
in access enhancements.
As for your desire to file a formal ADA complaint, I want to reiterate here
what you and I have discussed in conversations over the past year. The
Americans
with Disabilities Act is a federal law, enforced by federal government
agencies such as the U.S. Department of Justice, the Department of
Transportation
and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and, as such, formal
ADA complaints are best raised with those federal agencies. You may wish to
contact Bill Milzarski at the Michigan Commission on Disability Concerns
(PH: 517-334-8355 or email
milzarskiw at michigan.gov)
who can offer specific guidance on filing a formal ADA complaint to address
the issues you have identified.
The role of the Governor's State ADA Coordinator is to assist the Executive
Branch with ADA implementation issues within state government and to help
coordinate
technical assistance and training for the State of Michigan Departmental ADA
Coordinators.
While Laurie Bozung is the designated Department ADA Coordinator for the
Secretary of State, issues related to elections are best addressed by their
Elections
Bureau. Ms. Amy Shell (PH: 517-335-2795) is an Elections Specialist for the
Elections Bureau of the Secretary of State who can continue to provide you
with more information on the progress being made in Michigan to achieve
accessible voting for everyone.
I wish you continued progress in your advocacy efforts and trust that you
will keep me informed as other issues arise.
Best always,
Pat Cannon
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Harcz [mailto:michiganadapt at peoplepc.com]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:56 AM
To: Cannon, Patrick D (DLEG)
Cc: Dan Searing; sally Conway; John L. Wodatch; Marjory Raymer; Gary Kidd
Subject: Fw: formal ada complaint and documentation of discrimination
All,
What has happened to this and other ADA/504 complaints? The situation of en
masse discrimination continued into the general election and continues to
this
very date. Is the franchise of tens of thousands of individuals with
disabilities to be taken so lightly? Also as there are ample funds for
making the
voting experience accessible then why are not the state and federal
monitoring officials ensuring that these funds are used in part for access?
I've not only alleged but documented a long standing, pattern and practice
of mass discrimination on several counts effecting the civil liberties of
Michiganians
with disabilities in the most grievous manner. Yet there is not action, or
response let alone enforcement.
Please reply to this within three (3) working days.
Sincerely,
Paul "Joe" Harcz, Jr.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Joe Harcz
To:
Patrick Cannon
Cc:
john.l.wodatch at usdoj.gov
;
KYLE DUBUC
;
AMY MAES
;
harold.jackson at usdoj.gov
;
Charis Austin
;
Casey Dutmer
;
Donna Rose
;
representative John Gleason District 48
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: formal ada complaint and documentation of discrimination
August 21, 2004
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
Mt. Morris, MI 48458
E-mail:
michiganadapt at peoplepc.com
Re: ADA Compliance and Formal Grievance
Patrick Cannon
ADA, Coordinator, State of Michigan
Director, Michigan Commission for the Blind
Via E-mail
Dear Mr. Cannon,
I noted with interest in the most recent minutes of the Michigan Commission
for the Blind that you have been appointed by our Governor as the ADA
Coordinator
for the State of Michigan along with your current duties as Director of the
MCB. First, I'd like to offer my sincerest congratulations for this
appointment.
I'd also like to express that this appointment will help to address long
standing access issues for persons with disabilities engaging state agencies
and
who at long last wish to see the Americans with Disabilities Act actualized
in our daily activities here in Michigan.
I'd also like to alert you to a severe problem regarding basic and system
wide compliance with the ADA by the Michigan Secretary of State's Office and
its
particular ramifications on Michigan voters with disabilities, particularly
those who are blind and print impaired but not exclusively so.
As you know being a blind person yourself there are currently no systems for
casting a ballot independently and secretly in this state. As I'm sure that
you also know this state has received millions of dollars from the federal
government to purchase new voting systems including the infusion of $28
million
in HAVA funds announced yesterday. Indeed, about twenty-five counties will
have in place this November new balloting systems.
The problem is that none of these systems are accessible to the blind for
the Secretary of State has divined that OCR (paper ballot based voting) will
be
the statewide standard. And the new purchases referenced are all OCR
systems.
Moreover, no accessible system has been certified for use here in Michigan.
This is a violation of the ADA and Section 504 both in policy and practice,
as it does not afford people with disabilities equivalent access at the same
time as others get new systems.
Moreover, as you know if this agency had conducted and more importantly
implemented its required ADA transition plan and self-evaluation then
physical access
to all of its programs, services and activities would have been assured.
Discriminatory practices would have been eliminated. And effective
communications
with the visually, hearing and speech impaired would have been actualized.
Sadly, it appears that the Secretary of State's Office has been violating
the ADA systemically for the years since its passage to the present.
I submit for your consideration the following request for basic ADA
information along with a subsequent set of responses to my inquiry that
tacitly admitted
that this office of state government routinely violates the ADA and 504.
I submit this as a formal grievance, but as the Secretary of State's Office
has no required ADA grievance procedure this is most problematic. I also
submit
this as a formal ADA complaint and documentation of violations against my
person and all other persons similarly situated in the State of Michigan.
I am reiterating my request now from you in your official capacity as State
ADA coordinator to remit to myself in accessible format the Secretary of
State's
formal notification of rights, the contact information for its ADA
Coordinator, its ADA transition plan and its ADA self evaluation.
Regardless, as to whether or not they have these documents they have long
ago been obligated to ensure physical and communications access and to
eliminate
discriminatory practices.I am requesting that you look into this matter and
take measures to ensure compliance as soon as possible. It is critical for
voters with disabilities to have many of these items including physical
access to the polls and access to voting materials and the ballot itself
addressed
before November or thousands will have voting rights trampled upon or the
franchise eliminated altogether. (please also refer to attachment number
three.)
As you know I am blind and am requesting that any responses to this inquiry
are made in accessible format pursuant to obligations under Title II of the
ADA and Section 504 of the Rehab Act. My only request for accommodation in
this regard is to have correspondences via e-mail as either plain text
enclosures
or Word attachments to my e-mail address listed above.
I thank you in advance for your prompt response and urgent attention to this
and related matters.
Sincerely,
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
Cc: Michigan Council of the Blind and Visually Impaired
Cc: The Disability Network
Cc: John L. Wodatch, US DOJ
Cc: Michigan Protection and Advocacy
Attachments:
June 16, 2004
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
Mt. Morris, MI 48458
810-686-2673
E-mail:
michiganadapt at peoplepc.com
Re: Information request about ADA compliance measures
Terri Lynn Land
Michigan Secretary of State
Lansing, Michigan 48901-0726
(517) 373-2540
secretary at michigan.gov
Dear Madam Secretary,
I am writing today to request some information about the Secretary of State's
general compliance with The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
regulated
at 28CFR Part 35. Specifically I am requesting the following in
accessible/alternate format, as I am a legally blind person:
*the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II notification of rights (28CFR35,
II-8.4000 Notice to the public)
which was required of the agency by implementing regulations as of January
26, 1992.
* The name and contact information for the "ADA Coordinator" of the
Secretary of State's office and A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA,
Title II grievance
procedure (28CFR35, II-8.5000 Designation of responsible employee and
development of Grievance Procedures) required as of January 26, 1992.
*A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II complete transition plan
(28CFR35, II-8.3000 Transition plan)
which was required to be conducted by January 26, 1992; which was to have
identified all structural barriers at that time, schedule their removal,
take
interim measures for program access and to have removed the identified
barriers by no later than July 26, 1995.
*A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II self evaluation (28CFR35,
II-8.2000) which among other things was to have developed the means, methods
and protocols for providing information to people with visual impairments in
accessible formats, based upon "primary consideration" and in a timely
manner
(28CFR35, II-7.0000 COMMUNICATIONS;28CFR35, II-7.1000 Equally effective
communication;28CFR35, II-7.1100 Primary consideration).
It is also significant to note that the self evaluation should have
identified policies and practices that were discriminatory in nature and to
have set
forth the means for eliminating discriminatory practices.
This inquiry has some extreme implications about the understanding of an
implementation of the disability related aspects of the Help America Vote
Act of
2002 (PL107-252,)and indeed ensuring access for people with disabilities to
all aspects of the Secretary of State's programs, services, and activities.
Among many of them are:
*What provisions to this date in policy have been taken to ensure that
persons who are blind, visually impaired, have manual disabilities or other
disabilities
have equivalent access to ballots and voting systems at the same time as
non-disabled individuals? Speciffically what measures have been identified
and
made policy in the HAVA State Plan for this provision; and what devices and
systems have been certified by your office in this regard to date?
*Why are so many polling places inaccessible to this day in whole or part
when these same Title II entities were to have ensured program access more
than
twelve years ago under the ADA? And what sanctions or measures will be taken
by the Secretary of State's office to actually ensure accessibility to the
polls?
*What measures are currently being taken or have been taken by the Secretary
of State to ensure that printed information and visually delivered
information
such as that on its own web site is accessible to people who are blind,
visually impaired or otherwise "print impaired"?
*What provisions for remitting information in Braille, large print, audio
tape or electronic form based upon individual abilities to actually read
those
formats as the ADA requires has the Secretary of State's office implemented
since the passage of the ADA?
*Were provisions for alternate formats made at the meetings of or even
informing people with print disabilities about HAVA hearings? Were documents
at
those hearings in alternate formats? Were all of those hearings in
accessible or fully accessible buildings? Were interpreters for the deaf at
those hearings?
*Are all facilities of the Secretary of State fully accessible and are
provisions for information in accessible formats made and in place in those
offices
during the daily course of business conducted therein?
Many answers to these questions can be found in the documents that I am
requesting today. And of course the timely ability of the Secretary of State
to
produce these documents in accessible format to this one requestor will
speak readily to implementation.
Thus I make the request to receive these documents as either plain text or
Word electronic files, which may simply be sent to me as attachments to my
e-mail
address, listed above.
This just happens to be my most effective format for reading the printed
word for my computer "talks". It is also in the strictest sense of the term
the
most "readily achievable".
If I can be of assistance to your office in this regard or in any other
matter related to the civil rights of persons with disabilities, including
mine
please do not hesitate to ask.
I thank you in advance for your prompt and accessible response to my
inquiry.
Respectfully,
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
Cc: file
Cc: Christopher Thomas, bureau of elections
Cc: amy shell, bureau of elections
Cc: mpanda
Cc: mcbvi
Cc: dn
Cc: aapd
Attachment Number Two (Requests Denied):
June 30, 2004
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
1365 East Mt. Morris Rd.
Mt. Morris, Michigan 48458
Dear Mr. Harcz:
We have received your communication, dated and received June 17, 2004,
wherein you request information pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA),
1976 P.A. 442, as amended. The Department sent you a ten-day extension
notice on June 21, 2004.
In an attempt to meet your request, this document is being sent to you in
Word format.
Your request is ten pages long and discusses many issues. After a thorough
review, we believe that you have requested the following public records
(quotations
are taken from your request):
· The Secretary of State's ADA, Title II notification of
rights..which was required of the agency by implementing regulations as of
January 26,
1992.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· The name and contact information for the "ADA Coordinator" of the
Secretary of State's office.
Response: Granted. The ADA Coordinator is Ms. Laurie Bozung.
· A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II grievance
procedure required as of January 26, 1992.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II complete
transition plan.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· A copy of the Secretary of State's ADA, Title II self evaluation.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· The Department's forms, or official notifications of request, for
HAVA fund reimbursement for new OCR voting systems in Genesee County.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public records that you have requested.
· "You also stated that the HAVA monies promised or in hand from
the U.S. Government were only for updating of outdated election equipment
and
not for purchase of systems that are accessible to persons with
disabilities. Please send me the exact directives and citations for such a
claim."
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· Information on the three accessible voting systems that have been
certified, and their "official certification," and the dates that these
devices
were certified.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· "Any correspondence from your office notifying anyone including
election officials of these certified accessible systems."
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public records that you have requested.
· "An itemization of all HAVA monies received to date (in hand) and
promised to the state of Michigan.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public records that you have requested.
· "I specifically wish to receive information about monies already
secured from the United States Department of Health and Human Services for
the
purposes of securing voting systems and ensuring polling place access for
persons with disabilities."
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
· Any records showing a timetable or schedule to have an accessible
system/device installed in every polling place by January 1, 2006 or
November
2004.
Response: Denied. Pursuant to FOIA Section 5(4), I certify that to the best
of my knowledge, information, and belief, the Department does not possess
copies
of the public record that you have requested.
For the reasons cited above, your request is denied in part. Pursuant to
Section 10 of the FOIA, you may do either of the following:
1) Appeal this decision in writing to the head of the department. The
writing must specifically state the word "appeal" and must identify the
reasons
you believe the denial should be reversed. The head of the department must
respond to your appeal within 10 days of the receipt. Under unusual
circumstances,
the time for response to your appeal may be extended by 10 business day.
2) File an action in circuit court to compel disclosure of the records.
The action must be filed within 180 days after the date of the denial. If
you prevail in such an action the court is to award reasonable attorney
fees, costs, and disbursements. Further, if the court finds the denial to
be arbitrary
and capricious, you may receive punitive damages in the amount of $50.
Sincerely,
/s/
David Murley
Legal and Regulatory Services
DM/kc
Attachment Three:
August 20, 2004
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
michiganadapt at peoplepc.com
Re: Disability Access
TERRI LYNN LAND
Secretary of State
secretary at michigan.gov
Dear Secretary Land,
After reading your attached press release I must inquire: "How many of the
'nearly 200 cities and towns' using these federal funds for new equipment in
the August 3 primary also had equipment that allowed the casting of a
secret, independently verifiable ballot for the blind, visually impaired and
persons
with other disibilities?" How many will offer accessible balloting in the
November 2 general election?
The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 and Section 504 of the
Rehabilitation Act of 1973 requires that entities offering new voting
systems to the
general public also afford equilivent access to persons with disibilities at
the same time and station.
I also reiterate my request of the past to inquire as to what accessible
systems that your office has even certified.
Blind people cannot use independently or cast their ballots in secret with
these OCR paper ballot based systems. Nor can those with severe visual
impairments,
severe learning/reading disibilities or those with several categories of
manual disibilities.
Thus establishing and funding new inaccessible systems without at the same
time making accommodations for or even certifying machines that would offer
equal
access is an act of discrimination against thousands of Michigan voters. And
in fact this discrimination occurred on a grand scale on August 3 and will
be committed on a grander scale in November if not ameliorated rapidly.
As you point out Michigan has recently rrecived $28 million for voter
reforms and received more than $16 million last year in HAVA funds. Thus
this is not
an "unfunded mandate".
I hope that you see the inequities involved here of funding voting systems
geared toward only the able bodied population while not funding concurrently
equal access for people with disibilities.
Simply, I was a victim of this federally funded and state sanctioned
discrimination on August 3. For when I appeared to vote at the primary other
voters
were treated to a brand new OCR system while I being blind had to have the
assistence of two polling workers with my choices effectively broadcast
through
the entire polling place. Nor could I independently or with any confidence
verify that the vote was cast as I requested. I ask you to imagine yourself
blindfolded while voting at the recent primary using one of these systems
and if you'd found that either accessible or acceptible?
As a blind person I am requesting that any response to this formal inquiry
is made as either a plain text or Word attachment to my e-mail adress listed
above. I make that request relative to applicable portions of the ADA and
Section 504.
Thank you for your prompt and accessible response.
Sincerely,
Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
Registered Voter, Precinct 4, Genesee Township, Genesee County
cc: Michigan Council of the Blind and Visually Impaired
cc: Michigan ADA Coordinator
cc: Michigan Protection and Advocacy
cc: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Disability Rights Section
cc: Rep. John Gleason
cc: Senator Debbie Stabinow
cc: U.S. Rep. Dale Kildee
cc: The Disability Network
Attachment:
MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF STATE NEWS RELEASE
TERRI LYNN LAND
Secretary of State
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Kelly Chesney
August 20, 2004
(517) 373-2520
Michigan receives $28 Million in federal HAVA funds
Federal approval of State Plan makes funding available to upgrade elections
Today Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land announced that Michigan has just
received a $28 million installment in federal funds to continue the state's
election
reform efforts. The payment signals federal approval of Michigan's plan to
meet the requirements of the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA).
"I am pleased the U. S. Election Assistance Commission has approved of our
plan to upgrade Michigan's elections process and authorized this release of
HAVA
funding," said Land. "This is a multi-year process. Prior to the 2004
August Primary election, nearly 200 of our cities and townships replaced
their
outmoded voting equipment. With these additional federal funds, we now have
the ability to upgrade our voting systems for the rest of the state in 2005
and 2006."
A significant element of Michigan's State Plan was the adoption of a uniform
statewide voting system using optical scan and "precinct-based" tabulation
technology. Optical scan technology was chosen as the state's voting system
standard because it provides voters with a ballot that can be reviewed
before
it is cast, allows for consistency between absentee ballots and ballots
issued at the polls, eases the recount process by producing a tangible
document
created by the voter and allows for faster compilation and
(more)
reporting of election results. Michigan's choice of optical scan
sidestepped the subsequent controversies centered on other voting systems.
The funds
will allow Michigan to move forward with the selection of equipment that
meets the needs of the disabled community. Per federal law, this equipment
must
be in place by 2006.
"These funds are critical to fulfilling the requirements of HAVA, namely
ensuring
the integrity of our elections process, increasing privacy and independence
for voters with
disabilities, and providing access for military voters stationed overseas,"
Land said. "Michigan is fortunate it will be able to build upon its record
of election excellence given
the tight budget situation."
President Bush signed HAVA into law on October 29, 2002. It is without
question the most sweeping federal reform measure in decades. The law
requires
that state and local governments implement uniform and nondiscriminatory
election technology and procedures for conducting Federal elections. HAVA
places
new requirements on the states to assure access to voting for those with
disabilities and authorizes a total of $3.4 billion in federal funds over
three
years to help states meet the federal requirements.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Boone" <christine_boone at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
> J.J., Please don't leave! I truly believe that we are going to get the
> Commission squared away pretty soon, and then there will be plenty of
> space on the list for other things. I know how you feel. Sometimes all
> of this commission stuff just wears on a person. You just want a day to
> go by when we don't have to read about our rights being violated, or yet
> another MCB related meeting happening. Uggggg!
>
> Keep the faith and hang in there!
> I would like to see us have some kind of great and positive PR thing
> during the next year in the NFB of Michigan. Something that is designed
> to be completely positive. I have lots of ideas: Perhaps a walk-a-thon,
> but not just for the sake of having a walk-a-thon. We could walk in
> celebration of something, like Braille literacy, or Michigan poling places
> having accessible voting machines. That one might be good, with the 2012
> election coming up. We could walk for visibility, and to educate and
> encourage people to vote, not by absentee ballot, but at their
> neighborhood poling place using the accessible technology that is provided
> there. And why is it possible to vote in this way? Because of the
> National Federation of the Blind of course, and others who joined in the
> effort as the years passed, but it was indeed the NFB who was first on the
> scene to raise the issue of access to a secret ballot for blind people.
> For several years in Nebraska, in the 1990s, I even got to vote using
> Braille ballot instructions and a template for completing my own paper
> ballot.
>
> Here's to a brighter future, which will seem even sweeter for the dark
> times through which we have all journeyed together!
>
> With Love,
>
> Christine
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:26 AM, J.J. Meddaugh wrote:
>
>> Wow, this list just gets crazier all the time.
>> Perhaps it's time for me to leave.
>>
>> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>
>>
>>> Dear Joe,
>>>
>>> I absolutely agree. It is important that we become knowledgable of our
>>> rights and the obligations of a public agency like MCB under the law.
>>> Perhaps MCB would be more alert to the law if enough of us would insist
>>> tht
>>> our rights be followed.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:41 PM
>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>> To make it a part of the public record and to archive it. It is also
>>> instructive as to what consumer advocates including members of NFB MI
>>> should
>>>
>>> be doing.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>>
>>> Why must you CC the list with this?
>>>
>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Luzenski, Sue (DLEG)" <LuzenskiS at michigan.gov>
>>> Cc: "lydia schuck" <laschuck at juno.com>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Jo
>>> Anne
>>> Pilarski MCB, Chair" <pilarskij at CHARTER.NET>; "John Scott MCB,
>>> Commissioner"
>>> <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:49 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> June 12, 2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Re: ADA accommodations for upcoming meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> c/o Sue Luzenski
>>>
>>> MCB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Via e-mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sue,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm writing you today to receive in accessible format pursuant to both
>>> the
>>> Accessible Meeting and the Effective Communications requirements of the
>>> ADA
>>> and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 each and every scrap of information
>>> sent
>>> to MCB commissioners for the upcoming meeting on Thursday and Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not ask for as I've already received them elsewhere the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -draft prior meeting minutes
>>>
>>> -agenda except for the Thursday meeting
>>>
>>> -the MCB Report
>>>
>>> -the MCB activities list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do expect to receive all written reports and all other items
>>> referenced in
>>> the agenda.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you know my computer talks and thus the only accommodation I request
>>> at
>>> this time is to have these items sent to me at my e-mail address listed
>>> above as Word or plain text attachments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for your timely accommodation in this regard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: MCB commissioners
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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