[nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings

Mon Jun 13 23:22:20 UTC 2011

Dear Christine and All,

It ain't over until it's over. Check out the date, the requests and the 
violations in this one e-mail alone from an MCB client at the time...

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Harcz-Flintadapt-nfb

To: patrick cannon

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:31 PM

Subject: Fw: this is unambiguous

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Harcz-Flintadapt-nfb

To: Debbie L Wilson

Cc: Elizabeth White ; GRETCHEN GARIMELLA

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:29 PM

Subject: this is unambiguous

Now I still don't have timely delivery of all documents related to my own 
case including:

IPE, authorizations, referrals and even the paperwork at my last two 
meetings was inaccessible.

Regards,

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

July 3, 2002

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.

Mt. Morris, MI  48458

810-686-2673

E-mail: michiganadapt at peoplepc.com

To: P. Cannon, Director, MCB and advocates

Re: Records and Preferred Format

All,

The following segment of the MCB Policy Manual is unambiguous. It clearly 
states that all documents (including my own records) will be made available 
in preferred alternate format including electronic. There is no limitation 
to the scope here.

It also states that the records must be maintained.

These things have not been done consistently in my case.

And these things again are the core to my complaints with MCB. They do go to 
my personal case.

Sincerely,

Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.

Attached Segment from Policy Manual:

PREFERRED MODE OF COMMUNICATION

Standard print for the Michigan Commission for the Blind will be produced in 
14

point print in a font that is easily read (Arial or Courier fonts are 
preferred)

with 1.1" margins. This is a reasonably large print and when documents are

provided on disc it allows people using voice output devices to read without

having to scroll off the screen. The Michigan Commission for the Blind will

provide individuals with a choice of media for all documents generated for 
them

or information from the agency. Choices will include standard print, large

print, Braille, disc or tape. To the extent possible, the Michigan 
Commission

for the Blind will also accommodate individuals who do not speak or 
understand

English.

CASE FILE MAINTENANCE AND DOCUMENTATION

Counselors/Teachers shall maintain a case file for each individual that has 
been

referred for vocational rehabilitation services. That file shall contain all

required documentation. This information, when generated by the agency, will 
be

maintained by computer record in the agency computer system. Documentation 
in

the form of a narrative should occur periodically based on the periodic

assessment of progress developed in the Individual Plan for Employment or at

other times as necessary to provide continuity of services and appropriate.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christine Boone" <christine_boone at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings

> J.J., Please don't leave!  I truly believe that we are going to get the 
> Commission squared away pretty soon, and then there will be plenty of 
> space on the list for other things.  I know how you feel.  Sometimes all 
> of this commission stuff just wears on a person.  You just want a day to 
> go by when we don't have to read about our rights being violated, or yet 
> another MCB related  meeting happening.  Uggggg!
>
> Keep the faith and hang in there!
> I would like to see us have some kind of great and positive PR thing 
> during the next year in the NFB of Michigan.  Something that is designed 
> to be completely positive.  I have lots of ideas:  Perhaps a walk-a-thon, 
> but not just for the sake of having a walk-a-thon.  We could walk in 
> celebration of something, like Braille literacy, or Michigan poling places 
> having accessible voting machines.  That one might be good, with the 2012 
> election coming up.  We could walk for visibility, and to educate and 
> encourage people to vote, not by absentee ballot, but at their 
> neighborhood poling place using the accessible technology that is provided 
> there.  And why is it possible to vote in this way?  Because of the 
> National Federation of the Blind of course, and others who joined in the 
> effort as the years passed, but it was indeed the NFB who was first on the 
> scene to raise the issue of access to a secret ballot for blind people. 
> For several years in Nebraska, in the 1990s, I even got to vote using 
> Braille ballot instructions and a template for completing my own paper 
> ballot.
>
> Here's to a brighter future, which will seem even sweeter for the dark 
> times through which we have all journeyed together!
>
> With Love,
>
> Christine
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:26 AM, J.J. Meddaugh wrote:
>
>> Wow, this list just gets crazier all the time.
>> Perhaps it's time for me to leave.
>>
>> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>
>>
>>> Dear Joe,
>>>
>>>  I absolutely agree.  It is important that we become knowledgable of our
>>> rights and the obligations of a public agency like MCB under the law.
>>> Perhaps MCB would be more alert to the law if enough of us would insist 
>>> tht
>>> our rights be followed.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:41 PM
>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>> To make it a part of the public record and to archive it. It is also
>>> instructive as to what consumer advocates including members of NFB MI 
>>> should
>>>
>>> be doing.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>>
>>> Why must you CC the list with this?
>>>
>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Luzenski, Sue (DLEG)" <LuzenskiS at michigan.gov>
>>> Cc: "lydia schuck" <laschuck at juno.com>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Jo 
>>> Anne
>>> Pilarski MCB, Chair" <pilarskij at CHARTER.NET>; "John Scott MCB, 
>>> Commissioner"
>>> <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:49 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> June 12, 2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Re: ADA accommodations for upcoming meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> c/o Sue Luzenski
>>>
>>> MCB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Via e-mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sue,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm writing you today to receive in accessible format pursuant to both 
>>> the
>>> Accessible Meeting and the Effective Communications requirements of the 
>>> ADA
>>> and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 each and every scrap of information 
>>> sent
>>> to MCB commissioners for the upcoming meeting on Thursday and Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not ask for as I've already received them elsewhere the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -draft prior meeting minutes
>>>
>>> -agenda except for the Thursday meeting
>>>
>>> -the MCB Report
>>>
>>> -the MCB activities list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do expect to receive all written reports and all other items 
>>> referenced in
>>> the agenda.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you know my computer talks and thus the only accommodation I request 
>>> at
>>> this time is to have these items sent to me at my e-mail address listed
>>> above as Word or plain text attachments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for your timely accommodation in this regard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: MCB commissioners
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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