[nfbmi-talk] On Body Language

[joe harcz Comcast]

I'm not saying thatbody language doesn't exist. And I'm a big fan of video 
description, and for that matter radio, and other descriptive services.But, 
in every case sighted folks cannot describe every event, and should not be 
obliged to do so. It is simply impossable and, we should not always put upon 
every sighted person the responsability in my opinion to do this.

On the other hand I certainly am appalled when people consciously use the 
lack of sight against us as in this case to do sneaky things. And am 
grateful once again for other goodly sighted people for pointing this out.

Wow, in this case we had a major player for the commission, Connie Zanger 
and a Michigan assistent attorney general trying to play our blindness 
against us at of all things a commission for the blind meeting. And the 
audio more than sucked in this meeting.

God bless the good sighted folks like Lydia and Doug Boone, to name a few 
for pointing this stuff out.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tonya Smith" <tonyasmith75 at live.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] On Body Language


Well, then the solution is simple. Then you know I'm not ignoring that body 
language exists. I know it but you see it is the sighted person's job to 
realize that yes can do body language. But yet they have to describe you 
know what they are doing because they have to be conscious of that there is 
a blind person who is in the room because it's not our job to say what do 
they are doing every time. I mean it's gonna scare people often. I feel 
awkward doing that you know or if you have sighted friend with you they 
would tell you what they are doing, you know and stuff like that. So, yeah. 
I do realize body language exists. Does it matter to me? No. Not really. I 
would much prefer sound because that means a great deal to me. I judged by 
the tone of the person's voice anyway.

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> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> Sent: March 20, 2011 10:05:44 PM
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> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] On Body Language
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> I am totally blind as well.  I have a sighted son, a deaf daughter and a 
> sighted wife.  I'm not putting anyone down, I'm just making the point that 
> you can not pretend that body language doesn't exist.  You have to realize 
> that sighted folks have some advantages that we do not.  They can be 
> carrying on one conversation and having a different one with there body 
> language.  I think blind people are doing themselves a disservice if they 
> ignore the existance of body language altogether.  I have trained myself 
> to use and be conscious of how my body language is percieved.  It has been 
> 35 years sence I could see and even then, I couldn't see good enough to 
> read faces.  I could only get extreme gestures.  Being aware of body 
> language is sort of being atune to colors.  I would know that as a guy, I 
> would never wear lavender pants and a yellow shirt!  The last time I saw 
> those colors I was ten.  If I had nnever saw them though, i would have 
> sertainly have gathered the information that tells me, that's not good! 
> nd Believe me its not!
> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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