[nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline

Sat Oct 22 04:11:45 UTC 2011

But seriously how many paranoid rantings must be considerred before they are 
considerred precisely what they are?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline


> Hello Joe,
>
> I can generally make sense of most people, however, I fail to understand 
> what you are trying to say in this message. Are you trying to address my 
> response to Fred, or are you responding to the posts I made about amending 
> our student division constitution? In either case, I do not believe such a 
> response was necessary.
>
> While I am totally in favor of the right to free speech, I am also in 
> favor of people treating each other with respect. Speaking for me and 
> about me behind my back is definitely not a sign of respect, and I 
> respectfully ask you to discontinue this rhetoric immediately! Apparently 
> simply blocking your emails does not make one immune to your personal 
> attacks. But seriously, how many times must someone ask you to treat 
> people with respect on this email list before actions are taken to remove 
> you from the list? I honestly hope this situation is resolved soon!
>
> Respectfully,
> Elizabeth
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:49 PM
>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline
>>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> Not to be anal or anything else, but I thoughtElizabeth was simply asking
>> for opinions. I didn't think they needed or requested anything more. 
>> Correct
>> me if wrong here Elizabeth, but wasn't that what you wanted?
>>
>> Regardless being cslightly confused myself I'm only wonderrring if the
>> division requires a vote on this thing and if that is what Elizabeth was
>> preficing?
>>
>> Regardless, I think that Elizabeth was using this list most appropriately 
>> in
>> trying to give us all an accessable "heads up" to what she is proposing.
>>
>> I also think that given the dirth of accessable venues to make such 
>> things
>> accessable to all that this is highly appropriate.
>>
>> in other words I think she was asking for suggestions as to the language,
>> etc. of her concerns which I think highly appropriate.
>>
>> Now, as per formalities, legalities and all that I just don't know.
>>
>> But, certainly I must say that if there are spelling or grammatical 
>> errors
>> or whatever in any Constitution it nmakes us look bad if nothing else
>> andshould be rectified.
>>
>> So far as this all goes I am in full agreement with what Elizabeth has 
>> done
>> as far as I understand it and I applaud, as I've done in the past her
>> efforts so far as they go in these regards too.
>>
>> My only contention on this issue being somewhat coulded here Fred by
>> receiving only snippets...Not the fault of anyon here...Is this:
>>
>> "This isn't the domain of Larry as you suggest per se." This should be a
>> Constitutional matter based upon rule of law, and the Constitution is the
>> law in our regards.
>>
>> Now do not get me wrong here and this is by no means an attack upon you,
>> Larry or Elizabeth in these matters.
>>
>> It is just that NFB MI is a duelly constituted board with 501 (c0 (3)
>> obligations and with other "fiduciary charges" of stewardship including 
>> in
>> its design and guiding principles and actions like its Constitution, as 
>> our
>> affiliates and all that too...
>>
>> Anyway, the only and I repeat only thing I have disagreement with here 
>> Fred
>> is that it isn't "larry's call" as you suggest.
>>
>> NFB is a democratic organization and it is thecall of the "body politic" 
>> in
>> this type of thing. that is the issue
>>
>> Thisis not personal in the least again by the way. My comments neither
>> disparage you, Larry or Elizabeth but state principles in fact, law and
>> equity that are not disputable.
>>
>>
>>
>> I
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Not my call.  Talk to larry or mary.  I'm just the messenger.
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:32 PM
>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline
>>>
>>> Hello Fred,
>>>
>>> thank you for sending out this announcement. However, if we are 
>>> extending
>>> the date to reserve rooms for the convention, would it be possible to
>>> extend
>>> the deadline for pre-registration as well? If someone has not reserved a
>>> hotel room yet, being able to receive the pre-registration rates might
>>> serve
>>> as an incentive for booking a room. Just my thoughts for whatever they 
>>> may
>>> be worth.
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14 PM
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>;
>>> "Michigan Comm for the Blind Vision 20/20 List"
>>> <MCB2020-L at LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOV>
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] NFB of Michigan Hotel Reservations Deadline
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Convention Co-chairperson, Mary Wurtzel,  has asked me to send out the
>>>> following.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The deadline for registering for rooms at the kalamazoo Clarion Hotel
>>>> is october 25.  Our block of rooms will be released after that and
>>>> rates and rooms may not be available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To make reservations call 269-385-3922.  To be eligible for convention
>>>> room rates of $79.99 you must make a reservation and be registered for
>>>> the convention.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For information contact larry Posont, President at 517-482-1800 or
>>>> mary Wurtzel at 517-485-0326.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We all look forward to seeing our friends and colleagues in Kalamazoo
>>>> november 4-6 for an exciting and action-packed weekend of changing
>>>> what it means to be blind in Michigan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fred Wurtzel
>>>>
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