[nfbmi-talk] mac book

[joe harcz Comcast]

BTW the new Training center in Kalamazoo will have a full range of 
Technology in the TC scheduled to open in December. This will include a full 
range of Apple products, but also traditional PC based screen readers like 
Jaws.

When I get the draft minutes where this was announced I'll fw them to the 
list.

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Petrous" <annpetrous at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book


>I actually learned jaws at the training center in Kalamazoo, and it
> took me a full two weeks to learn it that includes power point.
> otherwise, i learned jaws in a week. I do everything that everyone
> else does. I go on bookshare, facebook, twitter, i also use microsoft
> word etc.  I even download music, so i can't imagine it being hard to
> use or to learn. I'm just tired of paying for a software that doesn't
> work as it should. I'm more than willing to get training on the mac.
> It didn't take me long at all to learn how to use the Iphone, so
> learning the mac, can't be hard.  Besides, i'm going to be getting a
> job soon, i hope so i want a laptop that i will be able to rely on. If
> there is someone on here who does use a mac, please email me. If i can
> use something that wont cost me so much money in the long run, and
> that wont cause me anger, lol i will be more than happy to learn it.
> Jaws is second nature to me. Half the time, i don't even think about
> it, so I'm sure the mac will be the same way, once i get used to it.
>
> On 9/21/11, Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Would you be willing to explain why you will not be switching over to the
>> Mac at this point in time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth--------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:55 AM
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book
>>
>>> I am not the best to ask, I have used a Mac for a couple days, and had
>>> some training, but haven't switched over, and am not going to do so, for
>>> now.  There is a learning curve, some things seem easier, some more
>>> complicated, but mostly different.  Lots of commands to memorize, but if
>>> you taught yourself JAWS you can handle it.  On any Mac type command-F5
>>> and it will start talking, command is immediately to either side of the
>>> spacebar.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 10:37 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>>is it easy to learn? when i learned jaws the first time, it didn't
>>>>take me long to figure it out, and to learn the key commands. I ask
>>>>this because I'm tired of shelling out money i don't have just to
>>>>upgrade a software that isn't that great to begin with.  I can't
>>>>imagine it being hard to learn. I'm hoping to go to the apple store
>>>>soon, and have them show me how to use it so that when i do purchase
>>>>one, i will know what i'm doing. i love the iphone, and how smooth the
>>>>voiceover is on it. it was a lot easier than i thought it would be
>>>>touse.
>>>>
>>>>On 9/21/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> > VoiceOver is quite usable, but it is quite different from JAWS.  The
>>>> > key commands are not the same and some of the underlying concepts
>>>> > with the Mac and  VoiceOver are different.  Pre-conceptions from
>>>> > Windows and JAWS seem to be a big part of what a Windows user has to
>>>> > get past when learning the Apple.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave
>>>> >
>>>> > At 09:50 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>> >>Hello all,
>>>> >>Does any one here own a mac book? if  so, I'm thinking about getting
>>>> >>one in the near future, and i was wondering how similar the voiceover
>>>> >>program is like jaws,  meaning, are the key commands the same? I
>>>> >>haven't had the chance to actually check it out at the apple store, 
>>>> >>so
>>>> >>i thought to ask before i go, and play with it. If anyone owns it,
>>>> >>please email me, so that I'm not flooding everyone's mail box on 
>>>> >>here.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>thanks,
>>>> >>Annother
>>>> >>thanks,
>>>> >>Ann
>>>
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