[nfbmi-talk] mac book

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Thu Sep 22 00:45:32 UTC 2011


I work for the rehab agency in Minnesota, as director of technology, 
so to speak, and we got two days of Mac Apple training.  You can go 
up to any recent Mac and hit command-f5 and get speech, as to a few 
days -- I don't know.

Dave

At 07:25 PM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>Ah, I see then. So must be you were able to try out a Mac without 
>actually buying one then. Is there a way that the average person can 
>do this as well as those who are more technically inclined such as 
>yourself? I would love to be able to try one out for a few days to 
>see what all the fuss is about before deciding on a new computer. I 
>know there are several different opinions out there regarding 
>computers, but everyone I talk to all seem to agree that I am in 
>need of a new one.
>
>Thanks so much for all your technical opinions.
>
>Elizabeth
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:55 PM
>To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book
>
>>Two reasons -- the main one is that I can't afford one at this 
>>time, or in the foreseeable future, and secondly, I have to do a 
>>lot of things on the web, like mailing list maintenance for this 
>>and our other 200 lists, and I am not sure Safari is as efficient 
>>on the web, with commands as JAWS and IE are to me now.  They may 
>>be, but my little experience wasn't reassuring.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>At 11:15 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>Would you be willing to explain why you will not be switching over 
>>>to the Mac at this point in time?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Elizabeth--------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:55 AM
>>>To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mac book
>>>
>>>>I am not the best to ask, I have used a Mac for a couple days, 
>>>>and had some training, but haven't switched over, and am not 
>>>>going to do so, for now.  There is a learning curve, some things 
>>>>seem easier, some more complicated, but mostly different.  Lots 
>>>>of commands to memorize, but if you taught yourself JAWS you can 
>>>>handle it.  On any Mac type command-F5 and it will start talking, 
>>>>command is immediately to either side of the spacebar.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>At 10:37 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>is it easy to learn? when i learned jaws the first time, it didn't
>>>>>take me long to figure it out, and to learn the key commands. I ask
>>>>>this because I'm tired of shelling out money i don't have just to
>>>>>upgrade a software that isn't that great to begin with.  I can't
>>>>>imagine it being hard to learn. I'm hoping to go to the apple store
>>>>>soon, and have them show me how to use it so that when i do purchase
>>>>>one, i will know what i'm doing. i love the iphone, and how smooth the
>>>>>voiceover is on it. it was a lot easier than i thought it would be
>>>>>touse.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9/21/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>>> > VoiceOver is quite usable, but it is quite different from JAWS.  The
>>>>> > key commands are not the same and some of the underlying concepts
>>>>> > with the Mac and  VoiceOver are different.  Pre-conceptions from
>>>>> > Windows and JAWS seem to be a big part of what a Windows user has to
>>>>> > get past when learning the Apple.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dave
>>>>> >
>>>>> > At 09:50 AM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
>>>>> >>Hello all,
>>>>> >>Does any one here own a mac book? if  so, I'm thinking about getting
>>>>> >>one in the near future, and i was wondering how similar the voiceover
>>>>> >>program is like jaws,  meaning, are the key commands the same? I
>>>>> >>haven't had the chance to actually check it out at the apple 
>>>>> store, >>so
>>>>> >>i thought to ask before i go, and play with it. If anyone owns it,
>>>>> >>please email me, so that I'm not flooding everyone's mail box 
>>>>> on >>here.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>thanks,
>>>>> >>Annother
>>>>> >>thanks,
>>>>> >>Ann





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