[nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Thu Sep 22 12:31:53 UTC 2011


Yup and I think I need to write something about my white cane too...Just in 
case...lol...

Please don't pet my guide cane it is not a pet and is working right now. 
Thank you...Smile...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user


> Also, there is usually a tag on the collar with the school phone number as 
> well.  And most dog schools also have people to call if access issues are 
> involved.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user
>
>
>> Remember the harness in the story denoted the guide dog school and the 
>> use of the animal.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user
>>
>>
>>> Oh no Fred!  We are surely not to blame!  But it is a good idea to carry 
>>> the dogs ID with you.  But like anything else maybe it was forgotten or 
>>> something.  Sounds like this jerk wouldn't have looked anyway!  Like I 
>>> said, it only takes a minute to see what the dog is being used for!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Fred wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Bob and Others,
>>>>
>>>> Blaming the owner is blaming the victim.  There is absolutely no excuse 
>>>> for
>>>> assaulting this person.  According to the story, she did not resist or 
>>>> in
>>>> any way provoke this assault.  The ligitimacy of her use of a service 
>>>> dog is
>>>> an issue for court.  It is not for the security guard to decide whether 
>>>> she
>>>> can lawfully be there.  The Police could have been called.  Further, 
>>>> she
>>>> could have ben allowed to have her appointment and there could have 
>>>> been a
>>>> follow-up.  According to the article, neither she nor her dog were 
>>>> creating
>>>> any kind of problem.
>>>>
>>>> We as blind people are too quick to assume we are to blame. 
>>>> Rent-a-cops
>>>> have no real authority and should have escalated this matter to someone 
>>>> with
>>>> authority.
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:17 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user
>>>>
>>>> I agree to a point.  I always keep my ID with me and also she has the 
>>>> school
>>>> tag on her.  But if you have a dog in harness and someone observes you 
>>>> for a
>>>> minute or so, they can clearly see what the dog is there for!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bob Mates" <bluesbob at att.net>
>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] outragious assault on gude dog user
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That was a terrible incident, but it underscores the importance of
>>>>> always having your school ID on you.  I once had an incident, in
>>>>> Newark, New Jersey, which threatened to get ugly.  However, when I
>>>>> showed the guy my ID, with Max's picture on it, he changed his tune
>>>>> completely.  Chances are, you'll never get asked to show your ID.
>>>>> However, on the off chance that you are asked, it's good to have it
>>>>> handy.  I hope that security guard gets fired.  He's not only a
>>>>> lawbreaker; he's also a liar, for saying he's a federal employee.
>>>>> Blessings, Bob
>>>>>
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