[nfbmi-talk] Mac book

[David Andrews]

There are two ways that Windows/JAWs can be run on a Mac.  The first 
is called Boot Camp, and it comes with every Mac sold.  It is a 
program that allows you to choose the operating system that will be 
loaded, when you turn on the computer.  You can have it boot into 
windows and run JAWS.  The second way is to use a virtual machine, 
the program fusion runs on Mac and can set up various virtual 
machines, you can put windows in one of them.  This way you can 
switch between Windows and the Mac on the fly, but it takes some 
resources for each, so neither has the full power of the computer.

Dave

At 01:56 PM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
>i was told at one point that you can run jaws through mac if you are
>using windows on their computer. it took me one week to learn jaws so
>i can't imagine it being difficult. Have you used the track pad i
>think its called?  When i go to the store, I'm going to sit down, and
>learn the voiceover as much as i can. I'm just sick to death of having
>to spend hundreds of dollars on a software program that doesn't work
>half the time, and even if it did work, i certainly don't have the
>money in the first place.  If i were to purchase a new laptop now, and
>then purchase the latest version of jaws, plus the maintenance
>agreement, that adds up to a mac, so i might as well buy a mac. like i
>said, i don't think i will have trouble learning it.  Now how do you
>run the windows operating system through the mac? is it a pain in the
>butt? i don't want this to be more complicated than necessary. I'm
>hoping to get a job soon, and i want a machine that will last me for a
>very long time. I don't do anything complex,as it is, so like i said,
>i don't think i will have any problems Besides i would love to use the
>mac like a sighted person does. I would imagine it being a lot easier
>than using jaws, and missing half of everything. I'm determined to
>learn it. If i can learn braille in three months i can learn the mac.
>lol  I want a small one. i don't need anything fancy.
>  Like everything else, it will take time to get used to, however i
>know i can learn it. I've played with my friend's I-phone, and i love
>it. When i do venture into the store, i'm going to ask, and learn
>everything i need to know.
>On 9/22/11, Scott Ford <scotte.ford at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >       I am using a Mac book Pro 15'.  I like the Mac platform, however as
> > many have said on this list the Mac is a different beast altogether.  You
> > must throw out most of the concepts that you have learned as a Jaws user.
> > For example the Jaws world looks at focal points on a micro level, on the
> > Mac they look at things on the macro level.  This is as if a sighted person
> > were to walk into the room and to take in the entire picture, then to focus
> > onto the object of their desire.  Wrapping your mind around the different
> > concept, is at times overwhelming.  Another thing is, that at times there
> > are if then situations.  For example if you do a VO+shift+down arrow then
> > you can listen to specific information about the table that you may be
> > examining.  On the other hand you could still look at certain stuff if you
> > are on the table and just arrow down.  This is not bad, however sometimes
> > the sidebar is available and at other times it is nowhere to be found.  The
> > key strokes often times take more than three fingers to 
> accomplish.  Finally
> > Most key strokes are significantly different from that of a P.C.
> >       I would like to make it clear I have a Mac and like it.  The machine
> > is great , in my opinion it is wonderful for a person who is not doing
> > business related activities, right now.  This is an ever evolving landscape
> > and today is not indicative of tomorrow.  Everyday something new is coming
> > out.  In fact you can still work in the windows world on a Mac, that is in
> > fact what I am currently doing, because there are just some 
> things that work
> > better right now in the windows world.  There are some things that the Mac
> > does do better though.  Downloading NLS books, they are immediately
> > unzipped, Reading email the application blows away any other, I have a
> > application on my Mac mini that provides full access to TV just 
> like TiVo, I
> > really like it, it is not quite as stable as TiVo, however the 
> accessibility
> > is un presidented.  I have a home control system that is completely
> > accessible, this is truly awesome, one cannot find that on a windows
> > machine.  In my opinion the bottom line is you need to determine what your
> > goals are and purchase the machine that will function the best for you.  In
> > many cases people have taken years to become familiar with 
> Jaws.  Learning a
> > completely new system may be an insurmountable task, frankly I 
> struggle with
> > it myself.  Then there are people who are like a duck to water, 
> in that case
> > go for it, but keep in mind that it is still not as mature as the PC is.  I
> > have no doubt that in the coming years if Apple continues to make the
> > strides that they have been doing they will blow the compotation away,
> > because they are not standing still in the accessibility universe.  I hope
> > that this helps a little.
> > Sincerely,
> > Scott