[nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
joe harcz Comcast
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Mon Sep 26 20:15:36 UTC 2011
You make my point. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: <christywitte at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
> Yes, it is definitely necesary to keep people accountable. However, I've
> never got joy of throwing gas on a fire that is already pretty well lit.
> Accountability needs to come from a designated place in the organization.
> I, too, have received libel, slander and definite defamement. If you feel
> so strongly about your issue, maybe you should take them to court.
>
> Personally, I think we all mess up from time to time. We always have
> weaknesses in some areas. Accommodations should be timely; accessibility
> should be a no brainer. Maybe there is another way to resolve these
> issues. I've had people within this organization fail to treat me with
> respect, try to push me into jobs I did not want, and force me to have a
> different vocational goal that I wanted (they said that it means something
> they need to put it in a file). I don't know about all of you but my
> resources are limited and my time is valuable to me. I think, what can I
> accomplish today? When I was a client, I was publicly humiliated,
> belittled, and talked down to. This could have been prevented if the
> people would listen to me and actually let the service be what I wanted.
> You know what, I thought it was all my fault. Then I listened to others
> and started to think? We all aren't inept here; maybe if so many people
> are having problems with this organization too, it must be organization's
> fault. It seems that they are trying to put squares where their are
> circles and get frustrated when they don't fit. I haven't had reason to
> put faith into this organization as I don't have faith in the government
> either. I've been let down too many times to count. We all make mistakes,
> we all have varying circumstances and I applaud the efforts, within our
> organization, to try to make things right.
> Christy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>
>
>> Yup,. Don't disagree, but those with credentials and paychecks need to
>> follow the rules.
>>
>> That includes those who slander and libel and otherwise defame those of
>> us who have worked in the dreaded private sector while these creepoioids
>> feast upon our flesh and defame us to boot.
>>
>> Now I'll match my job in the private sector against that of Faith Meadows
>> openly and honestly.
>>
>> I'll match my record against that of Pat Cannon too.
>>
>> I don't have any track record of privilege or patronage do you or do
>> anyone else in this sick system?
>>
>> Moreover, I'll match credentials in word, deed and fact around ADA/504
>> compliance with the likes of Cannon who has been "canonized" as a sort of
>> savior of those with disabilities but who is in documented fashion one of
>> the worst abusers of basic access and basic civil rights that there is.
>>
>> Now, if you wish to contest this with documentation and facts I'd love to
>> see it.
>>
>> Since it doesn't exist it stands as it is and as a fraud.
>>
>> But, go ahead make my day sue me, Opal Joseph Harcz, Jr. for slander and
>> libel.
>>
>> I'd love to see that lawsuit.
>>
>> I'd love it to death.
>>
>> The thought must make the mass discriminator Cannon crawl for he'd be
>> exposed for what he is and that is a fraud.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <christywitte at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>
>>
>>> I can definitely see why some people are frustrated and even angry.
>>> However, last time I checked, our job is not to judge others our spout
>>> off. If people could use that energy they feel to accomplish a goal,
>>> like getting a job it would be great. I'm not responding specifically to
>>> anyone on the list. I know that sometimes there are misconceptions about
>>> the commission and what it does and what it does not do. Try to turn
>>> your tragedies to triumphs. Also, blindness is just one adjective to
>>> describe us; beyond that, we come from all walks of life and so we have
>>> many experiences and abilities. Sometimes, we have to take things in
>>> our own hands. If we do not believe in our own abilities, how do we
>>> expect others to believe in our abilities. We all must forge ahead to
>>> achieve success; means something to everybody. Some of us are very young
>>> or very old, may have other disabilities, difficult lives, varying
>>> levels of skills. We are all given a different lot in life but we need
>>> to work within our own parameters to get things done. The commission can
>>> be lacking, this is true, but blaming an organization, which is composed
>>> of many people, doesn't get us a paycheck or whatever we feel we want
>>> and need individually and as a group. We must forge together and stand
>>> together to win our battles. By the way, I've never gotten assistance
>>> from anybody. I think about what I would do in their shoes; I also
>>> consider how much I would want to help or assist someone who has
>>> attacked me. I am not trying to offend others nor am I condoning people
>>> who don't get the job done. I've also observed that many people in my
>>> generation may not fully comprehend their own role in finding employment
>>> or understand what the job is going to involve. You have ask yourself:
>>> do I have the skills necessary for this job and if I want this job, or
>>> one similar to it, how am I going to personally acquire the skills that
>>> are lacking. Many blind people in my age group are unemployed, and many
>>> of those aren't hitting the pavement every day looking for enjoyable
>>> employment. I'm not sure about the reasons. They may feel overwhelmed by
>>> the process; they may feel like they are not equipped with the tools
>>> necessary to perform this job. It is kind of like climbing a mountain.
>>> You have to locate and climb to the higher level.
>>> Sorry about the length.
>>> Christy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:09 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also, I'm concerned about her and others who think our commission board
>>>> is to aggressive! Does this mean it didn't do much before? I thaught
>>>> our board was supposed to actually do something! Just being the blind
>>>> man in the street, and correct me if I'm wrong at least 2 of the
>>>> commissioners had very good jobs. I don't really know Lydia but if she
>>>> doesn't have one she would deffinetly have experience enough for the
>>>> board. Both of the commissioners who quit had good jobs but decided to
>>>> quit anyway because they were out numbered and in my humble oppinion
>>>> didn't really have enough interest in making things better for the
>>>> blind population as a whole. It seems to me that when some blind folks
>>>> get lucky and get good jobs they forget that most of us are still
>>>> struggling for the security and respect they think they have earned! I
>>>> am not slamming everyone that has gotten jobs iether but people like
>>>> Faith and Donna Rose must feel secure in ther jobs so they find us
>>>> especially the NFB tiresome because we still have to scratch and claw
>>>> for every single rite we gett! If joblessness and respect were not
>>>> issues then we wouldn't have to be aggressive about themm! But we
>>>> should always insist on fair play! At least the current board wants to
>>>> do things right and abov board!
>>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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