[nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter

Mon Sep 26 20:04:58 UTC 2011

Yes, it is definitely necesary to keep people accountable. However, I've 
never got joy of throwing gas on a fire that is already pretty well lit. 
Accountability needs to come from a designated place in the organization. I, 
too, have received libel, slander and definite defamement. If you feel so 
strongly about your issue, maybe you should take them to court.

Personally, I think we all mess up from time to time. We always have 
weaknesses in some areas. Accommodations should be timely; accessibility 
should be a no brainer. Maybe there is another way to resolve these issues. 
I've had people within this organization fail to treat me with respect, try 
to push me into jobs I did not want, and force me to have a different 
vocational goal that I wanted (they said that it means something they need 
to put it in a file). I don't know about all of you but my resources are 
limited and my time is valuable to me. I think, what can I accomplish today? 
When I was a client, I was publicly humiliated, belittled, and talked down 
to. This could have been prevented if the people would listen to me and 
actually let the service be what I wanted. You know what, I thought it was 
all my fault. Then I listened to others and started to think? We all aren't 
inept here; maybe if so many people are having problems with this 
organization too, it must be organization's   fault. It seems that they are 
trying to put squares where their are circles and get frustrated when they 
don't fit. I haven't had reason to put faith into this organization as I 
don't have faith in the government either. I've been let down too many times 
to count. We all make mistakes, we all have varying circumstances and I 
applaud the efforts, within our organization, to try to make things right.
Christy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter

> Yup,. Don't disagree, but those with credentials and paychecks need to 
> follow the rules.
>
> That includes those who slander and libel and otherwise defame those of us 
> who have worked in the dreaded private sector while these creepoioids 
> feast upon our flesh and defame us to boot.
>
> Now I'll match my job in the private sector against that of Faith Meadows 
> openly and honestly.
>
> I'll match my record against that of Pat Cannon too.
>
> I don't have any track record of privilege or patronage do you or do 
> anyone else in this sick system?
>
> Moreover, I'll match credentials in word, deed and fact around ADA/504 
> compliance with the likes of Cannon who has been "canonized" as a sort of 
> savior of those with disabilities but who is in documented fashion one of 
> the worst abusers of basic access and basic civil rights that there is.
>
> Now, if you wish to contest this with documentation and facts I'd love to 
> see it.
>
> Since it doesn't exist it stands as it is and as a fraud.
>
> But, go ahead make my day sue me, Opal Joseph  Harcz, Jr. for slander and 
> libel.
>
> I'd love to see that lawsuit.
>
> I'd love it to death.
>
> The thought must make the mass discriminator Cannon crawl for he'd be 
> exposed for what he is and that is a fraud.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <christywitte at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>
>
>>    I can definitely see why some people are frustrated and even angry. 
>> However, last time I checked, our job is not to judge others our spout 
>> off. If people could use that energy they feel to accomplish a goal, like 
>> getting a job it would be great. I'm not responding specifically to 
>> anyone on the list. I know that sometimes there are misconceptions about 
>> the commission and what it does and what it does not do. Try to turn your 
>> tragedies to triumphs. Also, blindness is just one adjective to describe 
>> us; beyond that, we come from all walks of life and so we have many 
>> experiences and abilities.  Sometimes, we have to take things in our own 
>> hands. If we do not believe in our own abilities, how do we expect others 
>> to believe in our abilities. We all must forge ahead to achieve success; 
>> means something to everybody. Some of us are very young or very old, may 
>> have other disabilities, difficult lives, varying levels of skills. We 
>> are all given a different lot in life but we need to work within our own 
>> parameters to get things done. The commission can be lacking, this is 
>> true, but blaming an organization, which is composed of many people, 
>> doesn't get us a paycheck or whatever we feel we want and need 
>> individually and as a group. We must forge together and stand together to 
>> win our battles. By the way, I've never gotten assistance from anybody. I 
>> think about what I would do in their shoes; I also consider how much I 
>> would want to help or assist someone who has attacked me. I am not trying 
>> to offend others nor am I condoning people who don't get the job done. 
>> I've also observed that many people in my generation may not fully 
>> comprehend their own role in finding employment or understand what the 
>> job is going to involve. You have ask yourself: do I have the skills 
>> necessary for this job and if I want this job, or one similar to it, how 
>> am I going to personally acquire the skills that are lacking. Many blind 
>> people in my age group are unemployed, and many of those aren't hitting 
>> the pavement every day looking for enjoyable employment. I'm not sure 
>> about the reasons. They may feel overwhelmed by the process; they may 
>> feel like they are not equipped with the tools necessary to perform this 
>> job. It is kind of like climbing a mountain. You have to locate and climb 
>> to the higher level.
>> Sorry about the length.
>> Christy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:09 PM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>
>>
>>> Also, I'm concerned about her and others who think our commission board 
>>> is to aggressive!  Does this mean it didn't do much before?  I thaught 
>>> our board was supposed to actually do something!  Just being the blind 
>>> man in the street, and correct me if I'm wrong at least 2 of the 
>>> commissioners had very good jobs.  I don't really know Lydia but if she 
>>> doesn't have one she would deffinetly have experience enough for the 
>>> board.  Both of the commissioners who quit had good jobs but decided to 
>>> quit anyway because they were out numbered and in my humble oppinion 
>>> didn't really have enough interest in making things better for the blind 
>>> population as a whole.  It seems to me that when some blind folks get 
>>> lucky and get good jobs they forget that most of us are still struggling 
>>> for the security and respect they think they have earned!  I am not 
>>> slamming everyone that has gotten jobs iether but people like Faith and 
>>> Donna Rose must feel secure in ther jobs so they find us especially the 
>>> NFB tiresome because we still have to scratch and claw for every single 
>>> rite we gett!  If joblessness and respect were not issues then we 
>>> wouldn't have to be aggressive about themm!  But we should always insist 
>>> on fair play!  At least the current board wants to do things right and 
>>> abov board!
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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