[nfbmi-talk] Fw: reinstate the marksmanship program at mcb tc

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Sun Feb 12 23:19:42 CST 2012


Speaks for itself on a number of accounts here. One here is a highly placed sellout, blood sucking Uncle Tom, Bob Roberttson acknoledging in effect substantial violations of civil rights in his own stupid words, not mine and then asking me to "sut up" whichis another violation and cause of action in and of itself.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robertson, Bob (LARA) 
To: MCB2020-L at LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOV 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: reinstate the marksmanship program at mcb tc


Joe -



It's bad enough that you have to fill our in-boxes with current inaccuracies, accusations, name-calling, and misguided opinions but is it necessary to re-post items from a year and a half ago?  Please stop doing it. In case you haven't caught up on the news yet, Christine Boone is currently employed with the Michigan Commission for the Blind so I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by this post. 



For the public record.



Bob Robertson

MI Commission for the Blind






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michigan Comm for the Blind Vision 20/20 List [mailto:MCB2020-L at LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOV] On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:42 AM
To: MCB2020-L at LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOV
Subject: reinstate the marksmanship program at mcb tc



April 3, 2010





The implications of using an arcane civil service requirement to deny blind students at MCB TC the opportunity of the Marksmanship Class is clear here in this segment of 504 regulations. One might also refer to similar requirements under Title II of the ADA. Also one need only look at the retaliation provisions of both 504 and the ADA to denote the additional prohibited act of discrimination against Ms. Christine boone in this regard.



DELEG and MCB discriminated illegally against both the students and Ms. Boone. This is clear on its face. But, these aren't the only acts of discrimination against people with disabilities in general and those who are blind in particular practiced by DELEG, MCB, and MCB Director and State ADA Coordinator Patrick Cannonn. They are only the proverbial tip of a huge iceberg. 



Joe Harcz

>From Section 504 Regulations:





§ 104.4   Discrimination prohibited.

                  (a) General. No qualified handicapped person shall, on the 

basis of handicap, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, 

or otherwise be subjected to discrimination under any program or activitiy which 

receives Federal financial assistance.

                  (b) Discriminatory actions prohibited. (1) A recipient, in 

providing any aid, benefit, or service, may not, directly or through 

contractual, licensing, or other arrangements, on the basis of handicap:

                  (i) Deny a qualified handicapped person the opportunity to 

participate in or benefit from the aid, benefit, or service;

                  (ii) Afford a qualified handicapped person an opportunity to 

participate in or benefit from the aid, benefit, or service that is not equal to 

that afforded others;

                  (iii) Provide a qualified handicapped person with an aid, 

benefit, or service that is not as effective as that provided to others;

                  (iv) Provide different or separate aid, benefits, or services 

to handicapped persons or to any class of handicapped persons unless such action 

is necessary to provide qualified handicapped persons with aid, benefits, or 

services that are as effective as those provided to others;

                  (v) Aid or perpetuate discrimination against a qualified 

handicapped person by providing significant assistance to an agency, 

organization, or person that discriminates on the basis of handicap in providing 

any aid, benefit, or service to beneficiaries of the recipients program or 

activity;

                  (vi) Deny a qualified handicapped person the opportunity to 

participate as a member of planning or advisory boards; or

                  (vii) Otherwise limit a qualified handicapped person in the 

enjoyment of any right, privilege, advantage, or opportunity enjoyed by others 

receiving an aid, benefit, or service.

                  (2) For purposes of this part, aids, benefits, and services, 

to be equally effective, are not required to produce the identical result or 

level of achievement for handicapped and nonhandicapped persons, but must afford 

handicapped persons equal opportunity to obtain the same result, to gain the 

same benefit, or to reach the same level of achievement, in the most integrated 

setting appropriate to the person's needs.

                  (3) Despite the existence of separate or different aid, 

benefits, or services provided in accordance with this part, a recipient may not 

deny a qualified handicapped person the opportunity to participate in such aid, 

benefits, or services that are not separate or different.

                  (4) A recipient may not, directly or through contractual or 

other arrangements, utilize criteria or methods of administration (i) that have 

the effect of subjecting qualified handicapped persons to discrimination on the 

basis of handicap, (ii) that have the purpose or effect of defeating or 

substantially impairing accomplishment of the objectives of the recipient's 

program or activity with respect to handicapped persons, or (iii) that 

perpetuate the discrimination of another recipient if both recipients are 

subject to common administrative control or are agencies of the same State.

                  (5) In determining the site or location of a facility, an 

applicant for assistance or a recipient may not make selections (i) that have 

the effect of excluding handicapped persons from, denying them the benefits of, 

or otherwise subjecting them to discrimination under any program or activity 

that receives Federal financial assistance or (ii) that have the purpose or 

effect of defeating or substantially impairing the accomplishment of the 

objectives of the program or activity with respect to handicapped persons.

                  (6) As used in this section, the aid, benefit, or service 

provided under a program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance 

includes any aid, benefit, or service provided in or through a facility that has 

been constructed, expanded, altered, leased or rented, or otherwise acquired, in 

whole or in part, with Federal financial assistance.

                  (c) Aid, benefits or services limited by Federal law.  The 

exclusion of nonhandicapped persons from aid, benefits, or services limited by 

Federal statute or executive order to handicapped persons or the exclusion of a 

specific class of handicapped persons from aid, benefits, or services limited by 

Federal statute or executive order to a different class of handicapped persons 

is not prohibited by this part.



More information about the nfbmi-talk mailing list