[nfbmi-talk] Fw: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

Thu Jun 21 06:54:47 UTC 2012

I ask that this thread end here and now.  I will not ask again and will not 
be patient with anyone who elects to ignore me.

Joe Sontag

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 21:52
Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training,Who's Got The 
Training?

>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Fred Wurtzel
> To: 'NFB of Michigan Vendors List'
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?
>
>
> hello,
>
>
>
> Ordinarily I would deal with this off list.  I want others on the list to 
> understand that at least 1 person does not agree that such allegations be 
> part of our list.  Joe, this is out of line for the NFBMI list.  If it is 
> so, then it ought to be dealt with appropriately.  Turning our list int a 
> National Enquirer is not what I feel is proper decorum for our 
> organizational list.
>
>
>
> I recognize that we all have different standards of propriety.  I have 
> told you mine.  This is the last public statement I will make on this 
> topic.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:29 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Vendors List
> Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?
>
>
>
> How so Fred! It is documented that Zanger has had sex with subordinates 
> which is illegal nepotism.
>
>
>
> It is also a documented fact that many in BEP staff overlooked sexual 
> indescretions by one Thomas Kent which resulted in a #$2,000,000 ultimate 
> settlement against MCB which is in the public record by the way.
>
>
>
> MCB's portion was attributed to the fact that that convicted pedofile was 
> reported for sexual harrassment over and over again and then he, Thomas 
> Kent fired those reporting him in retaliation.
>
>
>
> MCB's issues were they did nothing when these abuses were reported.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile back at the ranch this stuff has been hidden from public 
> scrutiny illegally?
>
>
>
> And you call me out for stating the obvious?
>
>
>
> People want to sanction me for a swear word here and there while we had 
> documented, convicted pedophiles and so forth sanctioned by the system?
>
>
>
> What a ludicrous thing this is Fred.
>
>
>
> People should be at very least ashamed at the utter hypocrasy of this 
> stuff.
>
>
>
> Please, please, and more please don't get all outraged at the likes of me!
>
>
>
> I'm old and I'm tired and I'm not caving to nicey nicy stuff.
>
>
>
> Zanger is evil. Hull is evil. Cannon is evil.
>
>
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> In fact sir they are documented evil!
>
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>  From: Fred Wurtzel
>
>  To: 'NFB of Michigan Vendors List'
>
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:11 PM
>
>  Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?
>
>
>
>  hey joe, you're a little over the line, here, in my opinion, for the 
> NFBMI list.
>
>
>
>  Best Regards,
>
>
>
>  Fred
>
>
>
>  From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:54 PM
>  To: Joe Sontag; NFB of Michigan Vendors List
>  Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?
>
>
>
>  Who is training the trainers?
>
>
>
>  Oh Zanger can do math on her back. Hull has other positions.
>
>
>
>  It's all geometry don't you know, and all we want is some simple 
> arithmetic.
>
>
>
>  I hate to get all bent out of shape here, but it is a classic case of 
> "Pretzel Logic".
>
>
>
>  Great song by the way.
>
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>    From: Joe Sontag
>
>    To: VENDORSMI List
>
>    Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:39 PM
>
>    Subject: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?
>
>
>
>    I just learned from a credible source that the new operator at the 
> Secretary of State snack bar facility has made such a strong showing that 
> McVetti and Associates (or however it's spelled) has bee brought in at 
> their $150.00 per hour rate to make things even better out there.  Now 
> wait, isn't this the same firm that provided the core components of the 
> training provided to the class that this operator allegedly passed? 
> Bingo!
>
>
>
>    It should be noted that Assistant Manager Hull complained publically 
> and privately that former trainer John McEntee was doing a poor job with 
> the classes that he conducted and supervised.  It is known that the 
> operator in question here had failed the business math class twice prior 
> to completing the most recent training class and it has been claimed that 
> he was very late for a class session due to excessive partying with his 
> friends the night before, making it necessary for Program Manager Zanger 
> to get him out of the rack and take him out for breakfast.  Under Mr. 
> McEntee and most of the others who served before him, this would have led 
> to expulsion from the class.  All eyes are open on this one.
>
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