[nfbmi-talk] Fw: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

Thu Jun 21 01:52:02 UTC 2012

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Fred Wurtzel 
To: 'NFB of Michigan Vendors List' 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

hello,

Ordinarily I would deal with this off list.  I want others on the list to understand that at least 1 person does not agree that such allegations be part of our list.  Joe, this is out of line for the NFBMI list.  If it is so, then it ought to be dealt with appropriately.  Turning our list int a National Enquirer is not what I feel is proper decorum for our organizational list.

I recognize that we all have different standards of propriety.  I have told you mine.  This is the last public statement I will make on this topic.

Best Regards,

Fred

From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:29 PM
To: NFB of Michigan Vendors List
Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

How so Fred! It is documented that Zanger has had sex with subordinates which is illegal nepotism.

It is also a documented fact that many in BEP staff overlooked sexual indescretions by one Thomas Kent which resulted in a #$2,000,000 ultimate settlement against MCB which is in the public record by the way.

MCB's portion was attributed to the fact that that convicted pedofile was reported for sexual harrassment over and over again and then he, Thomas Kent fired those reporting him in retaliation.

MCB's issues were they did nothing when these abuses were reported.

Meanwhile back at the ranch this stuff has been hidden from public scrutiny illegally?

And you call me out for stating the obvious?

People want to sanction me for a swear word here and there while we had documented, convicted pedophiles and so forth sanctioned by the system?

What a ludicrous thing this is Fred.

People should be at very least ashamed at the utter hypocrasy of this stuff.

Please, please, and more please don't get all outraged at the likes of me!

I'm old and I'm tired and I'm not caving to nicey nicy stuff.

Zanger is evil. Hull is evil. Cannon is evil.

In fact sir they are documented evil!

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Fred Wurtzel 

  To: 'NFB of Michigan Vendors List' 

  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:11 PM

  Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

  hey joe, you're a little over the line, here, in my opinion, for the NFBMI list.

  Best Regards,

  Fred

  From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:54 PM
  To: Joe Sontag; NFB of Michigan Vendors List
  Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

  Who is training the trainers?

  Oh Zanger can do math on her back. Hull has other positions.

  It's all geometry don't you know, and all we want is some simple arithmetic.

  I hate to get all bent out of shape here, but it is a classic case of "Pretzel Logic". 

  Great song by the way. 

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Joe Sontag 

    To: VENDORSMI List 

    Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:39 PM

    Subject: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

    I just learned from a credible source that the new operator at the Secretary of State snack bar facility has made such a strong showing that McVetti and Associates (or however it's spelled) has bee brought in at their $150.00 per hour rate to make things even better out there.  Now wait, isn't this the same firm that provided the core components of the training provided to the class that this operator allegedly passed?  Bingo!

    It should be noted that Assistant Manager Hull complained publically and privately that former trainer John McEntee was doing a poor job with the classes that he conducted and supervised.  It is known that the operator in question here had failed the business math class twice prior to completing the most recent training class and it has been claimed that he was very late for a class session due to excessive partying with his friends the night before, making it necessary for Program Manager Zanger to get him out of the rack and take him out for breakfast.  Under Mr. McEntee and most of the others who served before him, this would have led to expulsion from the class.  All eyes are open on this one.

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