[nfbmi-talk] more bsbp from spil

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Tue Oct 1 14:39:34 UTC 2013


Don't forget Jones, Robertson, and the regional supervisors....All chiefs 
and no indians....

Oh and let us not forget the folks at DTMB and the House Legislative CFO who 
actually pul their strings and who misappropriate VR and other federal 
funds.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] more bsbp from spil


> Dear Joe,
>
>  That is truly the tragedy of this corrupt agency.  Blind people not
> getting the services they desire or need. Just multiply Terry's case by
> humndreds and you can start to recognize the absolute insanity at the 
> BSBP.
>
>   I am deeply sorry for the blind people that will suffer from this
> corruption and I hope that one day they will stand up and say enough is
> enough. The NFB of Michigan, as the largest and most vocal organization of
> the blind in Michigan, must take every step necessary to stop this
> corruption and the very hateful bureaucratic control that is overwhelming
> the blind of this state.  Mr. Arwood, Mr. Zimmer, Mr. Rodgers, Ms. Zanger,
> Mr. Hull and especially Mr. Essenberg will go down in history, and yes, 
> one
> day, they will be history, as the most evil, hateful and corrupt 
> bureaucrats
> that this State has ever known.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
> harcz Comcast
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:01 AM
> To: terrydeagle at yahoo.com; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] more bsbp from spil
>
> Terry you and others are still eligible for VR services even if you are
> older than 55. I know you know this and that BSBP violates the Rehab Act 
> in
> your, and indeed others instance.
>
> I mean this goes back to your court case and the fact they wanted you to 
> pay
>
> for your cafeteria certification in the record by that scoundrel Michael
> whats his name.
>
> Title I of the Rehab Act (the VR part) states explicitly that no SSI/SSDI
> recipient may be required to pay any part of his/her 
> rehabilitation/training
>
> included.
>
> And to automatically put someone who wants to work in the OIB program just
> because he is over fifty five is incredible and another violation.
>
> (That also goes to the informed choice provisions of Title I).
>
> They don't set the goals. You do.
>
> Or that's the way it should be.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] more bsbp from spil
>
>
>> Truly more BS4BP.
>>
>> Don't get me going on the "maximum" services provided to we older, over
>> 55,
>> blind persons, dumped into that program automatically at age 55 by the
>> vocational rehabilitation program, like an old mare put out to pasture to
>> finish out life  And then told $1500 was not available to adequately 
>> train
>
>> a
>> newly blind person in the use of a computer screen reader program.  I
>> suppose this is how the bureau is still more "proficient" than the former
>> Commissioner structure at providing services to older blind.  Perhaps I
>> should also change my name, so I can become more "proficient" at 
>> receiving
>> services from the agency serving the needs of blind persons.  Perhaps a
>> name
>> change will also get me a J O B within the agency.  Oh yeah, they only
>> hire
>> a certain type of blind person, and my ethics and morals don't go that
>> low.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
>> harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:57 AM
>> To: bsbpcommissioners at michigan.gov
>> Cc: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] more bsbp from spil
>>
>> 1.7 Independent Living Services for Individuals who are Older Blind - 34
>> CFR
>> 364.28
>>
>>
>>
>> Describe how the DSU seeks to incorporate into, and describe in, the 
>> State
>> plan any new methods or approaches for the provision of IL services to
>> older
>> individuals who are blind that are developed under the Older Individuals
>> who
>> are Blind program and that the DSU determines to be effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Independent Living Services Program for individuals who are 55 years
>> of
>> age or older and blind, or visually impaired is administered by BSBP thru
>> Blind Field Services and Independent Living teachers, a specialized unit
>> of
>> the DSU.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Older Blind program is referred to as the Older Individuals who are
>> Blind Program (OIB).  Services are available statewide through BSBP with
>> individualized or specialized services made available through a fee for
>> services agreements.
>>
>>
>>
>> BSBP staff is responsible for the majority of case processing functions
>> related to service provision for eligible consumers.  BSBP staff ensure
>> maximum service availability for eligible individual's provision for
>> eligible consumers thru local partnerships.  Independent Living Services
>> (ILS) are provided both in-home as well as in the community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Independent Living Services training is available through individualized
>> plans for independence.  Blindness and low-vision techniques are taught.
>> Assistive technology and equipment may be loaned or purchased to 
>> consumers
>> for use in their home and/or community.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those individuals seeking assistance with low-vision or blindness
>> skills
>> training but do not meet federal eligibility, appropriate referrals will
>> be
>> made to Centers for Independent Living and/or other community resources.
>>
>>
>>
>> Due to limited availability of funds for OIB services consumers,
>> stakeholders and advocates  will convene with the DSU and SILC and in
>> partnership with the Blind Advisory Committee and the CIL Network to
>> gather
>> input and recommendations for the future of OIB focusing on the most
>> efficient and effective use of OIB funds to serve consumers statewide
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