[nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Mon Sep 16 02:15:47 UTC 2013


You're perfidy sir in regards to the CIC motions relative to the enactment 
of the illegal executive order are a part of the public record, as are your 
continued violations of 504 and the ADA and please, pretty please once again 
don't deny these things.

We can reconcile only if we acknoledge our wrongs in the public place sir. 
While a member of either aCB or NFB or nothing, one thing rings true from me 
as an advocate for we people who are blind. That is I have fought for the 
individual and collective rights of those who are blind without compensation 
either direct or indirect and without lauditory stuff, fluf, or other 
considerations.

All I want is simple justice for blind folks andthat is all I ever wanted.
That is the demonstrable fact in the public record wherther nominally of 
ACB, or NFB, (which was mostly btw), or independent.

For aside from rightful services under the Rehab Act I've asked for nothing 
personally and have gotten less so...Smile...

As an award for my advocacy efforts!

In fact I've got nothing but documented violations of my civil and human 
rights over decades by this system with no relief.

But I fight on sir. I fight not for my own things, or discrete perks of 
others, but I fight on for principles and for performance and for dignity 
and for just plain common sense of things sir.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style


> Oh, I never thought of that.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
> harcz Comcast
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>
> The fact sheat is written in to law both in the promulgated rules, and 
> more
> Certaintly in the statute and regs of the Rehab Act ad Randolph Shepard 
> Act,
> along with of course Public Act 260. How many violations of law and equity
> might we suffer without remedy?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> To: "'Joe Sontag'" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing
> List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
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>
>> Hi,  This is the basis of a very good fact sheet.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Joe Sontag
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:51 PM
>> To: Marcus Simmons; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>
>> He said that all of the concern was based on "misinformation," that
>> Tim Hortons was not going into the State Capitol and that MSU ice
>> cream would be available at the Capitol and Anderson Buildings.
>>
>> Never mind that the Capitol will be a satellite of the Anderson, where
>> the real Timmy's going in, just across the street from the Capitol,
>> with a level
>> 17 and 2 level 12 employees and ten student assistants to run it all.
>> Never
>> mind that the Lesislature is not exempt from the food service priority
>> established under PA260 of 1978 as amended.  Never mind that many of
>> those who work in the Anderson House Office Building now believe that
>> a blind person is not capable of or willing to take on a facility like
>> the Anderson or that the very Agency that is supposed to be with and
>> behind us is shamelessly selling blind people down the river.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marcus Simmons" <president at map-n.org>
>> To: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet
>> Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:37
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>
>>
>>> What did they say? Thru all of the laughing and joking around, I
>>> could not follow.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBMI List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 11:40 AM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Hortons spin, Zimmer style
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here's what Mike Zimmer said to SILC last Friday about the mystery
>>>> franchise.
>>>>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22266576/ZimmerSILC09132013.mp3
>>>>
>>>> When will they learn that some of us were once children and have
>>>> moved well beyond childhood?
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