[nfbmi-talk] job opratunities for youth
joe harcz Comcast
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Sat Sep 28 14:31:01 UTC 2013
Christine,
Please don't stop you are right on on all accounts. And I being from a more
left perspective, for lack of better words has always wonderred about this
sort of union busting angle as well.
The other thing is Rodgers harps along with the others in LARA about civil
service, etc. even on the MCRS and SILC as being the dominate player in the
job field but ignores Section 501 of the rehab act, and other affirmative
action requirements of federally funded entities like BSBP which wouldn't
exist in the first place without the Rehab Act.
Let alone this hack doesn't recognize the priority for blind vendors under
RS, or PA 260.
Note on that account yesterday Rodgers announced that BSBP is down to 72
operators.
72!
And note once again he told the commissioners that blind folks in BSBP where
about 20 percent. Shoot even under the evil empire of Cannon they were
roughly 33 percent for a time.
Bottom line is it is incredably transparent to me that BSBP can't place
blind folks in to competive jobs, let alone first jobs or even volunteer
jobs outside of the agency which is its primary reason for existence in the
first place when it can't tdo it internally.
It is a sick and sad joke.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Boone" <christineboone2 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] job opratunities for youth
> Apparently Rodgers was asked about this by the staff:
> "Why are there no student assistants who are blind?"
>
> His answer is that there were no applicants. My question is: Were these
> jobs advertised to customers of the agency? Were counselors encouraged to
> have their consumers apply for them? We all know that the answer is no,
> and no again.
>
> He was also asked "What is the deal with all of these student assistant
> positions? Those are not union jobs. So is he trying to bust the union? I
> wonder where the UAW is? They should be raising a stink about it for
> sure.
>
> The training center has no receptionist position any longer- instead there
> are 3 or 4 student assistants who cover the desk. Now there are these 10
> jobs to help Rob Essenburg and they are not union either? Ed Rodgers says
> that he supports the union- but his actions would certainly seem to
> indicate otherwise. We sure haven't seen many positions within the agency
> that are not either student assistants or management jobs that are not in
> the union either.
>
>
> I had best stop right now.
>
> Christine
>
> Boone Christine Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:51 AM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Did all notice by the way in the initial "student intern" posting for ten
>> to work at the "State Plate" under BADP that there was no preference or
>> even a standard EEO notice for blind or disabled folks?
>>
>> Shoot if they were going to do that sort of thing which was and is
>> illegal to begin with wouldn't one think they BSBP would use it to hire
>> students who are blind, albeit in the Lansing area for work experience
>> with actual pay?
>>
>> As for Jeff what opportunities are for him to have work experience in the
>> BEP program for example here in Genesee County?
>>
>> Given the climate etc. I never would recomend that Jeff would go in to
>> the BEP program per se, but it is a job experience, or should be one for
>> Jeff and folks like him.
>>
>> Shoot another place for Jeff to get some unpaid work experience now that
>> I think of it is at the "talking book library" here and, indeed since
>> there is no full time counselor in the BSBP office nowadays I'm sure they
>> could use some help.
>>
>> My only reticence in having Jeff work or even volunteer with anything in
>> BSBP is that he might get a distorted notion of what work skills, and
>> indeed a job is.
>>
>> Jeff could have had some work here in flint with the LIO program helping
>> with Braille etc for other blind students but they moved that in the dead
>> of night back to Lthe Lansing library which doesn't have required Braile
>> signage on every permanent room....
>>
>> Oh, it's still the "School for the Blind" here in name only along with
>> the school for the deaf. Another story for another day though.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry D. Eagle"
>> <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] job opratunities for youth
>>
>>
>>> Amen! Christine. Georgia would be under-utilizing, at best, her talents
>>> and
>>> skills within the current stormy climate of the current agency on
>>> blindness,
>>> and it cannot, in my opinion, be referred to as an agency serving blind
>>> prtsons, as it is not, except for self-serving, as certain blind persons
>>> who
>>> magically declare themselves as servants and advocates of the blind,
>>> after
>>> decades of not, even identifying as being legally blind, not to mention
>>> the
>>> b-l-i-n-d word, or associating with the blind community, yet, they now
>>> hold
>>> themselves out as blind, and experts in blindness and rehabilitation of
>>> the
>>> blind, including business. Totally self-promoting and self-serving I
>>> say.
>>> And disgusting too.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Christine Boone
>>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:32 PM
>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] job opratunities for youth
>>>
>>> Man Georgia, why are you not working as a vocational rehabilitation
>>> counselor? You would be the bomb for sure! I never saw so many great
>>> ideas
>>> and practical tips all tucked into such a concise email.
>>> I am not sure I could recommend that any friend of mine sign up to work
>>> at
>>> Michigan's blindness agency in the current climate- but bless you for
>>> sharing your knowledge and ideas!
>>>
>>> I echo your comments to Jeff, all of them. Volunteering is a fantastic
>>> place to begin. Often you can make arrangements to volunteer at a local
>>> business, and if your work is good, the business will offer to pay you.
>>> It
>>> is a great way to remove stereotypes, gain wonderful experience in the
>>> real
>>> world of work, to get great references for scholarship and employment
>>> applications later on and to stretch your own skills.
>>>
>>> Thanks to some fantastic staff at the Training Center when I was there,
>>> many
>>> of our students found volunteer work experiences while they were in
>>> Kalamazoo and some of those turned into paying jobs.
>>>
>>> Christine
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Georgia Kitchen <gkitchen at samobile.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> It is nice to hear you are back on the list. I have been out of high
>>> school a while but I wil do mmy best to help you. I asssume you still
>>> are
>>> living in the same area. How about a paper route?? Maybe you should
>>> investigate your contacts and friends. for example, wouldLarry Porn or
>>> others you know may have suggestions. Maybe the genesee freenet has a
>>> volunteer position that would give you valuable experience with the
>>> computer. I know they were looking for folks that could help make web
>>> sites
>>> for non profits.
>>>> The visually impaired center may have some suggestions. Is the Cracker
>>> Barrel Restrauant stiill in this area? I know they used to hire the bind
>>> and
>>> they offered training. I was on co op when I was a high school student.
>>> they
>>> have many pahying jobs and I think they may be able to offer a job where
>>> you
>>> wouolld be working with computers, cars, special education or whatever
>>> you
>>> are interested in. the skill center is not a paid job but they offer
>>> many
>>> valuable skills. My reader is learning how to fix computers,, laptops,
>>> how t
>>> work with customers etc. My brother took mechanics and got a lot from
>>> that
>>> program. My step son help bild a home when he was at skill center.]
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>>> Please excuse the typos. You may want to inquire at your school to see
>>>> if
>>> there are some jobs there and if not maybe you could suggest that they
>>> offer
>>> some. Seems like this area is able to get grants to support many things
>>> that
>>> are needed. my tech has a small sign by his house that he fixes
>>> computers.
>>> is there something that you could do when not in school such as raking
>>> lawns, baby sitting etc?? It is great that you are interested in
>>> working.
>>> Please remember that volunteer experience also can provide valuable
>>> experience. There is nothing like a pahying job and I know that you
>>> would
>>> agree. Joe is right about your right to have your dog with you. I
>>> wonder if
>>> there are any small eating places, motels that would need part time
>>> help??
>>> Star Bucks is known nationally to hire disabled. My childhood friend
>>> works
>>> at the cafeteria at Michigan state in East Lansing and she had a dog
>>> guide.
>>> Her dog state in a cage while she is working. She can take the dog for
>>> walks on her lunch hour etc. She has been there part time for a long
>>> time.
>>>> You could call MCC or u of M in this area perhaps. I am sorry but I do
>>>> not
>>> have any contacts there. They have retired. The president of the
>>> college is
>>> a good guy if you want to talk with him. I talked with a former
>>> presiedddent
>>> of MCC in the past. That is my 2 cents. How about asking your minister?
>>> If
>>> you can tell them your interests and what you can do that may be
>>> helpful.
>>> The sooner you start networking the better. That will show folks thatt
>>> you
>>> are interested in working. Could you do a dog grooming business or dog
>>> sitting or both?
>>>>
>>>> as you know, the lions club members are often influential people in the
>>> cmmunity and may be of help now or in the future. If it were not for a
>>> wonderful friend that stuck his neck out for me by helping me obtain
>>> more
>>> than one job, I would have not ever got either one of them. Sighted
>>> people
>>> use networking a lot I have found out to get where they are in many
>>> casses.
>>> One of my newsline volunteers is helping me locate health fairs in the
>>> area
>>> to attend for Newsline. I try to help him out when I can and generally
>>> be a
>>> good friend. He has continued to help newsline despite having some
>>> health
>>> issues.
>>>> www.serotek.com hires blind people. I do not know how old you need to
>>>> be.
>>> Do you have a resume prepared or could you prepare one that you could
>>> put
>>> online if you were required to? I have not done this but I sure wish I
>>> had
>>> the skills. I know Hadley helps folks with this sort of thing. How about
>>> tutoring a student or little one??
>>>>
>>>> I hope you find something or perhaps start a business of your own
>>>> that
>>> would fit into your schedule.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Georgia
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> This is Jeff Crouch writing, I was wanting to know, as a blind person,
>>>>> what kind of job opratunities would be good for me, I am looking for a
>>>>> job and need some assistance, because I have a guide dog now, I don't
>>>>> think I would be able to work in a restrant, but i'm not sure on that.
>>>>
>>>>> If you all could help.
>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 73
>>>>> k8tvv
>>>>> jeff crouch
>>>>
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