[nfbmi-talk] nfb files suit in l.a.

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Apr 5 00:10:25 UTC 2014


Huh? Come on. This is a twenty five million dollar federally funed 
Vocational Rehabilitation agency. I'm tired of ttheir ludicrus excuses. And 
by the way madame I never made a FOIA request but, rather denote oover and 
over again this stuff should be made accountable and accessable upon this 
web site in a timely manner.

This is supposed to be America where governmental activities are open, 
transparent, accountable and timely.

This isn't the Soviet Union, or at least I thought it wasn't.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nadia Cioffi" <nadiaacioffi at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] nfb files suit in l.a.


> There is one, second you should google, third ask kindly and maybe some 
> will give, four not evening I'd BSPB . Your find to have to look up the 
> name, there is a phone number and use the state staff directly like 
> everyone was.  The websites are manger the MI Dep of technology and 
> bought,however they are limited with options given. I've spoken to someone 
> about this, they cannot change stuff it goes through long process. If you 
> had job this called chain of command and requires paperwork because if in 
> policy it has to be followed  or people get fixed for state gov: it three 
> write ups, hr and no job. I know someone In government and teaching me 
> these things now do I keep job, polices are not same every ware.
>
> Next, you need to understand why plain emails are not always linked on 
> websites. 
> http://www.michigan.gov/mobi/lara/0,,7-154-61256_28313-15006--,00.html
>
> http://www.state.mi.us/dit/directory.aspx
>
> Sate of Michigan Staff Directory
>
> Do not me either of pages cannot used by screen reader, I know these work 
> fine! System access, NVDA, JAWS, and if those work, MAC and Window Eyes do 
> too.
>
>
> 1. Spam, the state has many email addresses. They have filtering, but 
> cleaning up junk mail twines time. Time means money and staff, More 
> effective to not spend time on something that can be prevented,
>
>
> 2. Here is link the webpage;
> 3. If I give this, I ask the following:
> A. That you understand an before blaming a department.
> B. that do not send FOIA requests until you ask for looking for on list, 
> in private and you attempt yourself to research.
> C. Understand that everyone is human, when write, ask kindly and be aware 
> that are taking time to reply to you, respect it. The more time you take, 
> the ruder you are, the less willing they will bs help you. Understand its 
> employee to mange their time. Wait for reply   They have other emails 
> besides toys to read, understand maybe maybe away form office, in meetings 
> or with family.
>
>
>
> I agree to answer some of your questions, but I have to mange my time and 
> if do any of things listed above to list at my judgment, I may stop 
> answering you. Do not email me all day busy life, if ask to ask more 
> direct question, then  ask looked stuff I will answer questions when I 
> can, but ember to respect me as well or you can find someone else to help 
> learn this.
>
>
> Remember It's not do much about skills, bur if do not respect others: the 
> will no way learn these skills, I did not learn overnight, I learned to 
> say thank you, I know and have background in the goal, try to keep 
> learning really you can all the smarts. If you do not try to learn, be 
> grateful and respect what have I have is information to nothing with. This 
> is meant say I have been shorn to, we are human; we want respect then we 
> show to others. We all onde wand love as ell, trust me. I want to 
> something with the a mind, find a nonprofit that have hart in mission, 
> something that means something to tryout instead of writing FOiA maybe 
> consider educating in wring, this be used in many ways, seems like facts. 
> Write a research paper, informal about topics pick or find to must meaning 
> or join a group that forces on that area, spend time others who know then 
> and start to make change outside a mainframe list. I end to also do tech 
> related stuff, bur learning form others then allis you get know people, 
> build connects, apply to hope network with it do something!
>
>
>
> On  Apr 4, 2014, at 3:28 PM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> 
> wrot
> Shoot BSBP can't even get a staff directory out without a FOIA. They need 
> to be sued on multiple counts for multiple violations of our individual 
> and collective civil rights.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry D. Eagle" 
> <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] nfb files suit in l.a.
>
>
>> This is a good step forward by the NFB.  Seems as though many employed to
>> serve the blind don't care, and only respond to legal action and paying
>> attorney fees.
>>
>> Actually, this sounds so much like the BS4BP and the BEP, whereby vending
>> cash and credit card systems are TOTALLY INACCESSIBLE to the blind, and
>> require use of a sighted person to manage the cash in a vending facility,
>> allegedly reserved for operation by a blind person!  Imagine a sighted
>> person controlling your business cash system!  Must be the justification 
>> by
>> Rob Essenberg, now a BS4BP BADP director, and former blind vendor, for
>> boosting his sighted manager's wage from $15 to $20 per hour, upon his
>> departure from a BEP TOTALLY INACCESSIBLE vending facility operation.
>> Ironically, that sighted manager is now once again working, as a state
>> employee,  for none other than Rob Essenberg in BADP.  What does that say
>> about how state employment is obtained?  The state employment hiring plot 
>> is
>> thicker than this with regard to Essenberg and BS4Bp.  What does it say
>> about the skills of blindness by certain blind BS4BP employees?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
>> harcz Comcast
>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 12:18 PM
>> To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] nfb files suit in l.a.
>>
>> National Federation of the Blind and Four Blind People File Suit Against
>> RideCharge, Inc. and Three Taxicab Companies in California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> LOS ANGELES, April 2, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/--
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind
>>
>> (NFB), the oldest and largest organization of blind people in the United
>> States, and four blind people residing in California-Rick Boggs, 
>> Geraldine
>> Croom,
>>
>> Rochelle Houston, and Tina Thomas -filed suit today (case number:
>> 2:14-cv-02490) in the United States District Court for the Central 
>> District
>> of California
>>
>> against RideCharge, Inc. and three entities that manage taxicab fleets in
>> Southern California:  Administrative Services Cooperative, Inc., LA Taxi
>> Cooperative,
>>
>> Inc., and South Bay Yellow Cab Cooperative, Inc.  The taxicab 
>> cooperatives
>> have deployed RideCharge's self-service, touchscreen payment terminals,
>> which
>>
>> are inaccessible to blind taxicab riders, in taxicabs throughout Southern
>> California.  The complaint alleges violations of the Americans with
>> Disabilities
>>
>> Act (ADA), the California Unruh Civil Rights Act, and the California
>> Disabled Persons Act.
>>
>>
>>
>> The self-service terminals utilize an entirely visual, touchscreen 
>> interface
>> mounted on the back of the front passenger seat that allows sighted 
>> taxicab
>>
>> riders to access information and services privately and independently.
>> Among other features, sighted passengers are able to review trip and fare
>> information,
>>
>> privately pay fares with a credit card, and select tip amounts without
>> interacting with the driver. The exclusively visual interface lacks 
>> common
>> accessibility
>>
>> features for blind riders.  Many other transportation service providers 
>> have
>> installed text-to-speech output and tactile controls on their 
>> self-service
>>
>> terminals that allow blind riders to operate them independently.  As a
>> result of RideCharge's failure to include these common alternative access
>> features
>>
>> on its terminals, blind riders are unable to access the information and
>> services offered on these devices.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Marc Maurer,
>>
>> President of
>>
>> the National Federation of the Blind,
>>
>> said: "The ability to travel safely and independently is central to the
>> ability of blind people to live independent, productive lives.  Taxis are 
>> a
>> valuable
>>
>> mode of transportation for blind people, particularly in places like
>> Southern California where public transit is not always available.  Our 
>> right
>> to independent
>>
>> travel is unjustly jeopardized when we enter a taxi that has critical
>> features that cannot be independently accessed by the blind.  The laws of
>> the United
>>
>> States and the state of California require, and blind Americans demand, 
>> that
>> RideCharge and taxicab companies make all of their self-service terminals
>>
>> accessible to blind taxi riders."
>>
>>
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind and the individual plaintiffs are
>> represented in this matter by Laurence Paradis, Stuart Seaborn, Michael
>> Nunez, and
>>
>> Haben Girma of the Berkeley firm Disability Rights Advocates; Scott 
>> LaBarre
>> of the Denver firm LaBarre Law Offices; and Timothy Elder of the Fremont,
>> California
>>
>> firm
>>
>> TRE Legal Practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>
>>
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind (NFB) is the oldest, largest, and 
>> most
>> influential nationwide membership organization of blind people in the 
>> United
>>
>> States.  Founded in 1940, the NFB advocates for the civil rights and
>> equality of blind Americans, and develops innovative education, 
>> technology,
>> and training
>>
>> programs to provide the blind and those who are losing vision with the 
>> tools
>> they need to become independent and successful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Logo -
>>
>> http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120815/MM57966LOGO
>>
>>
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