[nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Information onBSBP Commission Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas, Reports & Consumer Satisfaction Survey

Sat Feb 22 03:10:25 UTC 2014

Yes, there website is messy I was part of last survey 4 years ago and not see that report, I do not see meeting minutes besides the commissars meeting in February, however the state website seems to hide them in dumb spots, ill contact I know to who is charge of posting that junk, I'll ask them what point issue is without writing a director, hopefully you not getting charged for these requests because who ever in posting public information, I'm not seeing correct stuff though I'm going to see what's best way get them fix it, I'll work with people I know. But they are trying to blame someone else, I need to do this in such a way that documents back up what I say, I will fill technical request exposing  that a lot I cannot seem find a lot Pubic intimation, if they could could locate it and email me information or give the directions to find it, if cannot fit this will trigger, a report, someone will be assigned to post this public info. I know someone in state gov. and time someone dose not do job, they maybe wrein up and fired. 

I advise there is more one or 29 people doing this so the email and people do not get a rep of compelling, if people names are not known for complying then it helps!   I often write good things too, this too works its way up and when you be large complaint the it's been addressed because I thank people and person who like you know their trying maybe put up with politics because we all want respect and meme a difference and to be of vale? 

Saying thanks for time or I know wrote a lot but thanks for your time even if at you think a waste of time, you are saying here here are my thoughts but I considerer you           

On Feb 21, 2014, n r  at 9:26 PM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> wrote:

Yes I already have the last VR cconsumer satisfaction survey conducted in 20088. And madame I asked most nicely for the one Mr. Pemble said was sent out this year to the MCRS back in December and then I get this months later.

By the way it is now nearly five years since a VR consumer satisfaction was done. Does that tell ou anything?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadia Cioffi" <nadiaacioffi at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: FOIA Response to Request for Information onBSBP Commission Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas,Reports & Consumer Satisfaction Survey

> I found clint VR Survey form 2008, odds are I can the newer one bud by accusing right violations, first google surch, then send a kind email ask them where they store it on their website, If s cannot find stuff I Them letter
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> http://www.michigan.gov/mobi/lara/0,,7-154-61256_28313_33130-286907--,00.html
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> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:15 PM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: joe harcz Comcast
> To: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: FOIA Response to Request for Information on BSBP Commission Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas, Reports & Consumer Satisfaction Survey
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> Carla,
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> As a recent consumer who had his case closed before it was even opened UI want a copy of the consumer satisfaction survey itself in a format that is accessable to me and in a timely manner.
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> It may be sent without charge to my e-mail adress.,
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> And I will tell you this. This is one customer who is decidedly not satisfied.
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> As per the other information you've been informed that all information sent to commissioners must be made available to the public and in accessable format pursant to relevent sections of Title I of the rRehabilitation Act of 1973, Section 504 of the same act and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, Title II.
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> In addition this doesn't even follow LARA's own accessable meetings policies which are based on the above referenced laws.
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> All are federal civil rights laws and trump your continued abuse of the FOIA here which is clearly being used to circumvent aforementioned civil rights laws.
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> Moreover, as documented BSBP didn't even put its agenda of the last meeting up on its web site until nearly a week after the meeting itself.
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> Moreover, even under the Michigan Open Meetings AAct meeting minutes must be made available within eight working days and you can't charge for them or delay them either which you've done over and over again.
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> Thus I want the last meeting minutes yesterday madame!
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> And I want a copy of the survey Mr. Pemble said he sent out to consumers in the MCRS and other public meetings!
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> This is also going as documentation of a pattern and practice of civil rights violations to several parties Ms. Haynes.
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> Sincerely,Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Haynes, Carla (LARA)
> To: joe harcz Comcast
> Cc: Rodgers, Edward (LARA) ; Luzenski, Sue (LARA) ; Pemble, Mike (LARA) ; Belknap, Katie (LARA) ; Jones, Leamon (LARA) ; Gaston, Diamalyn (LARA)
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:48 PM
> Subject: FOIA Response to Request for Information on BSBP Commission Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas, Reports & Consumer Satisfaction Survey
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> February 21, 2014
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> Mr. Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
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> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
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> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
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> Mt. Morris, MI 48458
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> Re:  FOIA Response to Request for Information on BSBP Commission Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas, & Other Records sent to the Commission and the Consumer Satisfaction Survey
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> Dear Mr. Harcz, Jr.:
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> This email is in response to your February 13, 2014, email request for information, received by this office on February 14, 2014.  Please be advised that the Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP) is processing this request under the state's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), MCL 15.231 et seq.
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> You have requested information as described in your email which is included below.
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> In regards to your request for:
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> 1.  BSBP Commission for Blind Persons Transcripts/Minutes, Agendas and Other Information Sent:  You previously requested the transcripts/minutes on August 9, 2013, and on October 21, 2013, and of which you received a response to each on August 29, 2013, and November 13, 2013, respectively, granting the information and requesting payment for these records.  We have not received your payment to date.
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> Please note that all of the meeting transcripts/minutes and agendas are
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> FOIA Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.
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> February 21, 2014
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> posted on our website at www.michigan.gov/bsbp.  To access the agendas, choose Commission for Blind Persons, then under Meeting Agendas, choose 2014 Agendas.  To access the transcripts/minutes, using the same website, choose Commission for Blind Persons, Transcripts, 2013 Transcripts, then by meeting date.  As of this writing, all approved transcripts/minutes are available on this website.
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> 2.  Documents, Reports, etc. sent to the BSBP Commission for Blind Persons:  I have attached to this response, two reports presented at the February 7, 2014, meeting.  As to other documents per your request which you describe as "each and every scrap of paper sent to the commissioners and all information sent to BSBP Commissioners" a search must be undertaken.  For this reason, it is necessary to extend the time for this part of your response, as permitted by Section 5(2)(d) of the FOIA, through March 7, 2014.
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> If it is determined that there is a cost involved in the processing of this request, you will be sent an email which will include an invoice outlining
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> that cost (before or no later than March 7, 2014).  This email may either request a deposit (if the cost is over $50.00) or request payment of the total cost if the amount is under $50.00.
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> Please note that nothing within the federal American with Disabilities Act (ADA), Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (RA), as amended, or the state's FOIA (MCL 15.231 et seq.) requires a public body to process FOIA requests free of charge.  Further, while the ADA and Section 504 of the RA may mandate that, upon request, material be produced in an accessible format without charge, neither the ADA or Section 504 of the RA preclude a public body from charging costs under the state's FOIA. Thusly, please note that no labor fee charges have been, or will be, assessed to convert existing, nonexempt public records responsive to your requests into an accessible format to forward to you.
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> FOIA Response - P.J. Harcz, Jr.
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> February 21, 2014
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> 3.  BSBP Consumer Satisfaction Survey - This survey is not completed and your request is denied based on the FOIA MCL 15.243, Exemptions from disclosure, Section 13(1)(m) which states:  "A public body may exempt from disclosure as a public record under this act any of the following: Communications and notes within a public body or between public bodies of an advisory nature to the extent that they cover other than purely factual materials and preliminary to final agency determination of policy or action."  We believe that releasing this information prior to the completion of the survey will discourage open and frank communication of the parties involved.
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> Under the provisions of MCL 15.240, Section 10(1) of the state's FOIA, you may (1) submit a written appeal regarding the disclosure denial of any portion of your FOIA request to Steve Arwood, Director, Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, Attention: Michael Zimmer, Chief Deputy Director, P.O. Box 30004, Lansing, MI 48909. Your appeal must include the word "appeal" and identify the reason(s) for reversal of any disclosure denials; or (2) you may file an action in an appropriate court within 180 days after this notice. If you prevail in court action, the court may award you reasonable attorney fees, costs, and disbursements. If the court finds the Department's actions to be arbitrary and capricious, the court shall award you, in addition to any actual or compensatory damages, punitive damages in the amount of $500.00."
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> Sincerely,
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> Carla Miller Haynes, FOIA Coordinator
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> Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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> Attachment:  Email Request for Information, Attachment to Email - 2 Reports
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> cc:     Edward F. Rodgers II, Sue Luzenski
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>          Mike Pemble, Katie Belknap
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> Leamon Jones, Diamalyn Gaston
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> From: joe harcz Comcast [mailto:joeharcz at comcast.net]
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> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:27 AM
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> To: Rodgers, Edward (LARA)
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> Cc: Luzenski, Sue (LARA); Mike Pemble BSBP Dep. Dir.; Zimmer, Mike (LARA); Elmer Cerano MPAS;
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> BRIAN SABOURIN; MARK CODY; Marlene Malloy MCRS Dir.; BSBPcommissioners; Sally Conway USDOJ
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> Subject: reiterated requests ada/504 compliance and complaint!
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> February 13 2014 More Requests for Access Info
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> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
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> 1365 E. Mt. Morris, MI 48458
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> 810-516-5262
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> joeharcz at comcast.net
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> Re: Continued ADA, 504 Violations and Discrimination
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> CENTRAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE
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> Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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> 201 N. Washington, 2nd Floor
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> P.O. Box 30652
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> Lansing, MI 48909
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> Phone (voice): (517) 373-2062
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> Fax: (517) 335-5140
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> TTY (517) 373-4025
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> Toll-Free Numbers:
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> 1-800-292-4200 (voice, answered in Lansing)
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> 1-800-323-2535 (voice, answered in Escanaba)
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> TTY 888-864-1212
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> (Request via e-mail)
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> Edward Rodgers, II Director
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> Mike Pemble, Deputy Director
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> Sue Luzenski, Admin. Ass.
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> All,
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> I am writing you today to re-iterate requests for public information in accessible format related to the activities of the BSBP, in accordance with my known civil rights under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, Title II, relevant sections of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (which creates and funds BSBP, by the way), and the Michigan Persons with Disabilities Civil Rights Act.
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> I've repeatedly requested timely delivery in accessible format, and in deed affirmative action (re: Tyler v. Manhattan) , in delivering information related to public meetings of the BSBP "Commission". That includes all minutes/transcripts, agendas, and each and every scrap of paper sent to the commissioners for these are public records, readily available in accessible format, and yet I've not even received the past three meeting minutes eeven after numerous requests. Moreover no agenda of the last meeting was sent to anyone and it wasn't even posted to BSBP's web site. Now, you Mr. Rodgers and others have been informed in writing, with regulatory citations and case law relative to your requirements to make all meetings of BSBP accessible, including information therein, without surcharge or delay. Yet, you haven't even responded to several requests for information which is a violation of my civil rights. And since you have been informed copiously of these requirements you act deliberately in suborning my civil rights as a State actor and thus violate knowingly 42USC1983.
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> Now, sir I  repeat my request for all information sent to the BSBP Commissioners immediately including aforementioned minutes, but also including any reports, etc.
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> I am making these requests of course as a blind citizen. You may send these requested documents as either plain text attachments or enclosures to my e-mail address listed above.
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> Failure to respond and to remit again displays malicious, knowing and intentional violations of known civil rights and is actionable under the ADA, 504 and 1983.
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> Access to information related to BSBP is a fundamental civil right, indeed access for all people with disabilities to all VR programs is a civil right. These rights were established under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act more than forty years ago. They were  again reestablished under Title II of the ADA now almost 24 years ago. I think this is enough time for your agency to come in to compliance. I will no longer wait however for my civil rights.
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> By the way I'm still awaiting the accessable copy of the consumer satisfaction survey that Mr. Pemble outright lied about during the December 2013 MCRS meeting. I've requested that as you know and still have not received it.
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> Sincerely,
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> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
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> Cc: Mich. Protection and Advocacy Svs.
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> Cc: BSBP Commissioners
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> Cc: RSA
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> Cc: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Disabilities Rights Section
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> Cc: MM, MCRS
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> Cc: BS, MCRS, CAP
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> Cc: M. Zimmer, DSA/LARA
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> Carla Miller Haynes
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> LARA Bureau of Services for Blind Persons (BSBP)
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> 201 N. Washington Square, 2nd Floor
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> P.O. Box 30652
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> Lansing, MI  48909
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> Telephone:  517-373-2063 or Toll-Free 1-800-292-4200
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> Fax:  517-335-5140
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> www.michigan.gov/bsbp
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